two ways to change PS fluid

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Looking online I found two ways to change the power steering fluid. One you just change the reservoir and repeat periodically. The other you disconnect a hose, turn the steering wheel and get EVERYTHING out.

Any opinions on these? I prefer the first just because it will be easy and less expensive.
 
cant go wrong with just changing it with a turkey baster or suction gun every couple oil changes.

super easy, works, no hassle.
 
I just unclamp the hose under the reservoir in my truck

I just did the turkey baster, move steering wheel, blah nonsense, its a real pain in the you know.

I came to a conclusion, change just the reservoir every 2 oc's.
 
The second method is required if you replace components as the pump or rack. It'll flush out the contaminant debris. I also recommend it for the first flush.

The first method is good for maintenance. It'll thin out the wear debris.
 
Originally Posted By: joaks
Looking online I found two ways to change the power steering fluid. One you just change the reservoir and repeat periodically. The other you disconnect a hose, turn the steering wheel and get EVERYTHING out.

Any opinions on these? I prefer the first just because it will be easy and less expensive.


How would it be less expensive? You'll be using more fluid to do the same job. On a Ford, I'd go with the first one, since air tends to get in there and not want to leave. On your car, I'd do the latter, as it's quite simple to do and ultimately I think it's quicker just to get it done all at once. I like doing the drain/fill from the reservoir from a regular maintenance perspective, but if you have an older car and the fluid is all old, I think you're better off flushing all of it out of there. I've done it on your same car and it's super simple.

One thing you may want to consider while you're doing it is to drain the reservoir completely and change the o-ring between the reservoir and the pump. They tend to leak on that car.
 
Originally Posted By: tig1
I use the turket baster every OC on the PS pump and the master cyl res.


Same here. Takes a few seconds!
 
Originally Posted By: JOD
Originally Posted By: joaks
Looking online I found two ways to change the power steering fluid. One you just change the reservoir and repeat periodically. The other you disconnect a hose, turn the steering wheel and get EVERYTHING out.

Any opinions on these? I prefer the first just because it will be easy and less expensive.


How would it be less expensive?


I meant to say more expensive. I need coffee.
 
i prefer the turkey baster method and repeat it.
the method of disconnecting hoses always introduces a path for possible leaks when put back toghether. mike
 
I always take off the return line and drain completely before refilling -- trapped air will go out sooner than later.!!! The pressure side will relieve the air in no time unless there is a history of PS designs.
 
For a neglected PS system I'd recommend removing the return line and plumbing it into an empty container. When I did the PSF to ATF PS fluid conversion on my Chevy I pulled the return lines and used about 3qts of ATF until red came out of the return line.
 
Most manufactures do not have schedule maintenance for PSF. Using turkey baster every couple years is more than enough and easy to do too.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Most manufactures do not have schedule maintenance for PSF. Using turkey baster every couple years is more than enough and easy to do too.


+1 every OC is a bit OCD
 
is there even a remote chance that removing return line could cause problem? for example the connection starts leaking afterwards?
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
The second method is required if you replace components as the pump or rack. It'll flush out the contaminant debris. I also recommend it for the first flush.

The first method is good for maintenance. It'll thin out the wear debris.


Right on!

Seldom is the oil bad in a PS system but often the oil is loaded with contaminants, wear metals, etc. that can cause early wear and later failure. And there is no filter, so the harmful chunks just circulate endlessly and do damage. The turkey baster is better than nothing... but not by all that much if the oil has never had a full change. IMO, an early first change, at around 5K miles, or the addition of an inline PS filter on the return line (Magnefine or equivalent), will go a long way toward a trouble free PS system. If you look at how many rack & pinions get replaced (they are especially vulnerable to hard contaminants which can start leaks).

The break in period change is the most important to get a full flush. After that, the turkey baster is likely fine for keeping the oil fresh (my own estimation) but I think a filter is the best idea because you can install it without dumping all the good oil and it does the job for you.

A filter will extend the life of the oil by reducing the effects of oxidation from certain catalytic metals (like iron and copper) but eventually, the oil will need to be changed.

My full flush method:

1) Suck the reservoir dry with your baster.

2) Disconnect the return hose at the reservoir (or you can drain the reservoir this way if it's easier. FYI, you can disconnect the return hose at any point in the system. With my F-150, the PS oil cooler on the return circuit is down on the chassis and makes a GREAT place for this.

3) Run an extension hose from the return hose to a container large enough for at least a couple of quarts. I use a clear hose so you can see the clean oil.

4) Cap off the fitting on the reservoir so it will hold oil again.

5) Fill the reservoir.

6) Start the engine and let the oil flush through the system while filling the reservoir. Cycle the steering at least one time lock to lock to purge any oil oil there in the spool valve. Be sure to keep the reservoir full so you don't aerate the system. It's not a disaster if you do (with the systems I know about) but it saves time purging the system later.

7) Reconnect all the hoses in the correct way and refill the reservoir.

8) Start the engine and cycle the steering lock to lock a couple of time to purge any air, then recheck oil level.

9) Clean up any oily mess on the components and recheck the oil level after the first drive.

PS to Vikas: The return line is not more likely to leak after you remeove it than if the dealer or anyone esle did it for any reason... unless the person doing it makes a mistake. For most return hose, it will be just a hose clamp. Simple enough to get right. Return pressure is low.
 
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Even if the line had never been removed from it for a decade and now you try to remove it, could you snap the brittle plastic as you are trying to slide off the tube? I am just asking to understand the risk potential. I particularly hate if if end up making things worse than before.

If there are two lines to the reservoir, is it obvious which one is the return line?
 
If the fluid is dark and has been in way too long flushing by removing the hose is only a short term remedy as the new fluid will remove carbon from the system and be black again in a couple weeks.
 
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