TS/Hurricane Milton

[SHOZ]

I'm not stuck - I'm thinking through your scenario but you can't escape the laws of physics and the laws of conservation of energy and angular momentum and Newton's laws of motion, etc - how much energy would you need to apply to a weather system that weighs 20 million million pounds (that's just the water vapor that microwaves can interact with since water is a polar molecule) and has the kinetic energy of 200x the total world output of electricity per day? Where would someone get the electricity to power these devices?

Is the only thing in those radar domes a measly 1500w microwave??????? Is 1500w really good for a 150m radius?

They heat up the cloud tops. Have you looked into any of this? I see it on the radar screens when they shoot at my direction out of Iowa. Straight line of sight and quite obvious.

Do you kook at unfiltered radar frequently?

 

[Mechanician]

Up to you to prove them wrong right? The government admits to weather modification with things other than cloud seeding. I notice today all the national NEXRAD page is down at NOAA.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/radar/next-generation-weather-radar

No - fortunately I have better things to do than waste an afternoon watching a community college's radar, for imaginary energy beams.

I wouldn't waste my time trying to prove to Don Quixote that windmills aren't giants either.

 

[SHOZ]

BTW they sure did tone down that Hurricane they had up to 180mph cat 6 ........ if they can spin them up they can slow them down.

Maybe you should watch some unfilter top of the line radar if you offer your expert advice.

 

[Jimmy9190]

We lost power at 10:30 last night and it's still off now with no ETA from Duke Energy. We hope it will be back on soon but there are a lot of people also without power. We have canned food, fruit, crackers, peanut butter, bread, lots of water etc on hand and we have a brand new full propane tank to use the burner in our grill for cooking.

I was up at 2am this morning, couldn't sleep because of the wind and thunder, I was reading a book by flashlight in my living room. The wind whipping through our patio sounded like the devil screaming. We got the worst wind in the middle of the night. Luckily we had no damage to our house, just some leaves and small branches in the yard. Our next door neighbors got 3 inches of water in both of their bedrooms.

We are also grateful it's not very hot. Right now it's overcast and only 75 degrees with light wind. We lost a fridge and a small freezer worth of food but we are counting ourselves very lucky. It could have been much worse.

 

[Mechanician]

BTW they sure did tone down that Hurricane they had up to 180mph cat 6 ........ if they can spin them up they can slow them down.

Maybe you should watch some unfilter top of the line radar if you offer your expert advice.

I will take these actual experts' advice.
But I'm sure you believe they're all in on the hoax.
https://science.feedback.org/review...vidence-of-weather-modification-haarp-nexrad/

 

[demarpaint]

My son and brother had no damage, however they both have no power. I can't imaging what this storm is going to do to the already very high homeowner's and auto insurance rates come renewal dates of the policies.

 

[PWMDMD]

Is the only thing in those radar domes a measly 1500w microwave??????? Is 1500w really good for a 150m radius?

They heat up the cloud tops. Have you looked into any of this? I see it on the radar screens when they shoot at my direction out of Iowa. Straight line of sight and quite obvious.

Do you kook at unfiltered radar frequently?

Microwaves/radiowaves, like all electromagnetic radiation, follow the inverse square law. That means their intensity decreases by the square of the distance they need to travel to interact with those cloud tops. Instead of using a point source where the EMR propgates out in a sphere, you can use a line source and point it in a direction. This adds a "signal gain" fudge factor to the numerator, but you still have to deal with the inverse square law and not only do you have a massive amount of water vapor that would need to be irradiated, but the source is relatively far from the target water vapor. This again would require many, many, many orders of magnitude more energy than if the source was close to the cloud tops. So much electrical energy would be needed, that it doesn't exist on earth at any one time.

Microwaving water vapor, from a distance, is a TERRIBLE idea. To give some perspective, a microwave that travels 20 INCHES decreases in intensity by a factor of ONE HUNDRED. Now you still have to impart energy into the polar water molecules by torquing their dipole moments back and forth repeatedly with the oscillations of EMR. There's no free lunch here. If you want to heat a million pounds of water vapor 5F from a few miles away, you have to impart enough energy to not only jiggle the water molecules vigorously, but you have to also overcome the precipitous drop in energy intensity due to the inverse square law. It is just a terribly inefficient idea to the point where it's not impractical, it is IMPOSSIBLE. Hint - there's a reason we don't shoot microwave or radiowave guns at each other to cause localized tissue damage, it's too inefficient and it requires too much energy.

 

[alarmguy]

Many people makes incorrect assumptions on the size of hurricane wind speeds.
For example Milton hurricane wind speed was only 35 miles out from its center.
This is stuff the mass media makes hard to find.

So if science wants to slow down hurricane Cat 3 or higher winds they need to concentrate on a very small area of the overall storm as the higher the hurricane wind speed is the smaller the size of the hurricane wind field. As wind speeds slow down the field expands because the energy is less concentrated

 

[ARCOgraphite]

My cousin is back at her Sarasota first floor condo after a terrible night in Parrish out on a farm. Roof blew off the barn, cows got a bath, large tree boughs snapped, dogs got in a fight and her air mattress went flat. Her old Camry came away unscathed!

Absolutely amazed she didn't flood in Sarasota, with 9 inches of rain in one day.

No electricity, (of course no AC) a couple cans of beans in the cupboard, no stores or restaurants open.

I'll check online for her to see if I can find a food truck or shelter with food for her.
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WU weather station chart from up the street a little bit

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

So I was watching Star Talk with Neil D.G. Tyson. He had a longtime meteorologist John Morales from Miami as a guest and they were talking about hurricanes and Milton.

Per Morales, Milton is the first storm in recorded (100+ yr) history to develop in the SW corner of the Gulf and then head what was essentially directly east across Florida. It was also the 5th strongest storm (absolute strength not strength at landfall) in recorded history.

A couple of other things is that worldwide due to the degree of ocean heating hurricanes are ramping up faster than ever and they're going farther north than before (ex. up the middle of the Atlantic).

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

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[ARCOgraphite]

So I was watching Star Talk with Neil D.G. Tyson. He had a longtime meteorologist John Morales from Miami as a guest and they were talking about hurricanes and Milton.
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I saw that as well last night. StarTalk is one of my latest and favourite Youtube watches - along with the usual car stuff and HiFi stuff.

Love learning cool things - even now as an old codger

 

[Dave Hess]

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida...-hours-before-hurricane-milton-made-landfall/

Very sad some jerk would do this and leave dog abandoned.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

My cousin got electricity back yesterday. Now I can worry a bit less about her. She is in her mid-seventies and lives alone. She only gets $1100/mo. social security and has no savings.

 

[Dave Hess]

My cousin got electricity back yesterday. Now I can worry a bit less about her. She is in her mid-seventies and lives alone. She only gets $1100/mo. social security and has no savings.

Yikes, that’s a very tight budget for any retired person.

 

[SC Maintenance]

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida...-hours-before-hurricane-milton-made-landfall/

Very sad some jerk would do this and leave dog abandoned.

Dog is much better off now likely.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Yikes, that’s a very tight budget for any retired person.

So she works at Publix grocery store a few times a week PT, then Door Dash at night 7 days a week. Still not making ends meet. Insurance on a 23 year old Camry over 2k a year. An apartment style condo with a mortgage and they keep raising the HOA now over $450/month.
Still not making ends meet.
Nice retirement.