True or False about Motorcraft??

Ryan00TJ · May 13, 2005

My father recently asked me who made Motorcraft oil. I replied ConocoPhillips and he posted it on another website. Soon after another guy posted these comments..............

"Motorcraft Oil is best defined as an oil specification. It must meet and exceed the performance rating and do it every test. Many oil suppliers test a formulation 10 times and if it fails 9 times, but passes one time, they consider that a PASS on the formulation."

"Several Oil Companies produce "Motorcraft" oil for the assembly /engine plants and for distribution through the Motorcraft Oil didtributors. It would be of little consequence to know which because you would not likely get the same oil by purchasing their shelf product. Although, if they say on the bottle that it meets the Ford specification, it must have at least one time."

I especially found this part interesting!!!!!!

"Did you know that there are tracer elements in Motorcraft Oil that Ford checks to ensure that genuine Motorcraft Oil is being provided to dealers, and to determine if Motorcraft Oil was used, if there was a lubrication failure with a Ford engine?"

"If you decide not to use Motorcraft Oil, ask your oil supplier for a copy of their engine/lubrication guarantee, and hope you never need to use it!"

buster · May 13, 2005

FALSE. I think that guy is an idiot, plain and simple. Tracer elements? Motorcraft oil is blended by ConocoPhil. In years past it might have been a different supplier. Ford set the spec., and the blender, whoever that may be, must make the oil meet it.

Kestas · May 13, 2005

Find out what these tracer elements are.

Drew99GT · May 13, 2005

Yea, email Conoco Phillips, they'll tell you straigh up they make Motorcraft. And I really don't understand why some folks, especially loyal Ford fanatics, think the stuff is liquid gold. Is it good oil? Absolutelly! Would I choose it each and everytime in fear that my Ford engine will explode with out it?

I have such a tuff time choosing which oil I'm going ti use, I may bring a blind fold with me next time I get oil!

Gary Allan · May 13, 2005

Come on, pal...have some charity for those who wish to champion BITOG as THE oil authority in the known electronic frontier.

Give us a link so we can "know" them..

Ryan00TJ · May 13, 2005

I'm thinking www.myford500.com

That's what I was thinking.

Johnny · May 13, 2005

Well, let me clear this up or muddy the waters, which ever you prefer.

The Motorcraft you buy in the little red bottles and the Motorcraft that the dealers use, is made by ConocoPhillips, and no one else.

Now, the oil that is factory fill is another story. At this time there are two suppliers for the Ford plants. Mobil and Shell.

Before Conoco got envolved with Ford, there were 4 suppliers of Motorcraft oil on the retail market. Depending on what part of the country you lived in, you either got an oil that was made by Amoco, Chevron, Texaco, or Exxon. This was a long time before anyone ever thought about merging and oil companies.

And one more thing, all oil companies have tracers in their oil. They are chemical tracers.

Here is where a tracer works. Several years ago we had a very large distributor that also sold other brands of oil, including a very cheap oil. We got word that this distributor was putting this cheap oil in bulk tanks at some of our larger lube centers and selling it as Pennzoil. So, I went to these lube centers and pulled samples from their tanks and sent the samples to our lab in Houston. The tracer that we use was not present in the sample and the distributor lost his Pennzoil contract. Most oil companies have a testing program where samples are randomly pulled each year just to be sure their product is being sold. We like to call it quality control.

buster · May 13, 2005

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And one more thing, all oil companies have tracers in their oil

Very interesting. Never heard of that. I figured at one time other companies were making MC oil. I believe in Canada, XOM is making it. Someone posted that awhile back...thanks Johnny.

pscholte · May 13, 2005

GC has a tracer element too...if you have equipment that is sensitive enough you can find a trace of Elfen tears in each sample (they have a hard time letting go)...and that's the truth!

Johnny · May 13, 2005

I've heard of tears in my beer but never in my oil. Maybe this requires a new country song. Let's call Willy or Merle to write one for us.

427Z06 · May 13, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by Johnny:
Maybe this requires a new country song. Let's call Willy or Merle to write one for us.

I vote for it to be done to the melody of Clarence Carter's song "Strokin'".

I stroke it to the east, I stroke it to the west...

P.S. Thanks for the info, Johnny.

[ May 14, 2005, 03:33 AM: Message edited by: 427Z06 ]

Al · May 13, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by 427Z06:
P.S. Thanks for the info, Johnny.

Greaser · May 13, 2005

Tracers are manditory on explosives and propellants that are used for recreational, mining or even armed forces I believe...the authorities can "trace" the seller in case of illegal detonation and "track" down the culprits...

T-Keith · May 13, 2005

Perhaps this is why you sometimes see a small, almost insignificant amount of one element in some VOAs.

The guys comment about the warrantee thing was incorrect though. As long as it meets the specs it will not void the warranty, unless they supply you the oil for free. That's called the Magnuson-Moss
Warranty Act.

-T

Smitty · May 14, 2005

Johnny, is it possible for an oil company to put different tracers in different weight oils in order to identify that weight? If so, then if someone with a bad engine under warranty went to the dealer, the dealer could say "You were using 10w30, not 5w-20 as spec'd."

Johnny · May 14, 2005

They do not use tracers for viscosity. They would do a simple viscosity test.

JohnnyO · May 15, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by Ryan00TJ:
"Did you know that there are tracer elements in Motorcraft Oil that Ford checks to ensure that genuine Motorcraft Oil is being provided to dealers, and to determine if Motorcraft Oil was used, if there was a lubrication failure with a Ford engine?"

According to Blackstone on a UOA I got awhile ago, that would be barium.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001793

wavinwayne · May 15, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by pscholte:
GC has a tracer element too...if you have equipment that is sensitive enough you can find a trace of Elfen tears in each sample (they have a hard time letting go)...and that's the truth!

pscholte speaks the truth. In fact, if you can dig up the thread, I am the one who first identified this tracer element in GC.

haley10 · May 16, 2005

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Originally posted by Johnny:
They do not use tracers for viscosity. They would do a simple viscosity test.

Well, Johnny I hope you guys have this under control! I trust the local PZ guys completely, but hopefully they are not being conned by a distributor. Guess, I can never be sure what's in the bulk is the same as in the "yellow" jugs.

I notice the last PZ 10w30 bulk I got is so clear I can almost not see it on the dipstick. Runs great, though.

Ray H · May 21, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by Johnny:
They do not use tracers for viscosity. They would do a simple viscosity test.

Just how "simple" would that really be given the propensity of certain dino grades to shear down a grade by the end of an OCI?

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