Tried TruFuel in OPE

[Errtt]

Yesterday evening I tried the TruFuel in the Echo Blower and Echo Weedwhacker.
I had ran them both out of fuel, then added a can of TruFuel 50:1 in each.
I normally been using the Echo 2-stroke oil mix with pump gas.
At idle to full bore throttle, I couldn't tell any difference.
Just saying

 

[spasm3]

I think the advantage might be to use that before winter storage. I found a station near me that has non ethanol fuel. The last few mowings of the season, i will use this, and my stabil/2cycle mix for winter storage.( Will use in the suzuki too.)

 

[andyd]

I mix a jug of fuel at a rich 32:1 and use it in my saw, my mower, the weed wacker and the Mantis. If it is the only gas around, it goes in the four strokes. Current mix oil is a Valvoline universal. I use E10 87 octane gas. I add a cap full of MMO to every fill up. No carb troubles, no need for stabilizer.
Despite the cool factor of higher fuelil ratios, this is one area where I run rich. This allows me to use virtually any mix oil. Its ashless oil, so the heavy mix doesn't foul anything. I have developed this belef over the yrs and it has served me well. "Keep the mixture rich and the valve lash wide"

 

[Astro14]

More oil doesn't = rich. More oil = lean.

There is slightly less fuel per unit volume when you've got more oil than the manufacturer recommends. You can adjust the jetting/mixture on some OPE to compensate slightly...

The real value of trufuel comes when your OPE has been sitting all winter, or sitting unused for months in a humid environment, like, Virginia Beach, for example. Starts right up, runs clean. For infrequently used OPE, trufuel is worth the extra $$.

 

[AandPDan]

I use Trufuel in one thing only, my string trimmer. It doesn't get used that much. I do find it starts easily even after sitting all winter.

My other 2 strokes I mix it by hand but they get run all the time.

 

[fdcg27]

I got a bunch of TruFuel cheap last year using O'R's five off five coupons.
It seemed to work unusally well in every OPE I tried it in, including the four strokes.
It didn't seem quite good enough to pay 4X the price of pump gas for it, though, so I'm back on pump E10 87 octane now.
We've had E10 here for decades and it's never hurt any engine I've used it in.

 

[SOHCman]

I treated the lawnboy to a tank of it the other day, boy it was nice to mow with again. I have been using a [censored] craftsman briggs mower instead to avoid wearing out the 'boy.

Now I know it has zero ethanol in it for its next slumber, which is exactly what trufuel is good for.

 

[123Saab]

Its great stuff, Mostly because when I use it my OPE's always run the the same, No matter if it it sat a year or not.

Also very clean running, No smoke.

My chainsaws really seem to like it.

Not to mention that is great to have around for emergencies like storms taking down trees etc as it has great shelf life.

Yeah it's pricey but boy do I like to have a case or two handy at all times.

 

[lars11]

You should not "notice" any power difference compared to *good, fresh and median formula gasoline*.
Some areas that you should benefit from in the longer run are:
1. Much less decay of fuel during storage, in the tank or container. Less maintenance, less pulling the rope, less bad fuel to dispose of, less cost for additives.
2. Cleaner burning, meaning less head aches, better health if you use ope a lot. Maybe a little less soot and deposits in engines.
3. Tighter formulation tolerances, meaning no carb adjustments etc between batches of fuel.

The fuel tiself is more expensive, but if you add costs for maintenance, addtives and health on the other side of the equation you may find it profitable.
Maybe most visible profits for large operations that do their TCO-math and for small intermittent users that suffer a lot from old bad fuel.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: lars11
You should not "notice" any power difference compared to *good, fresh and median formula gasoline*.
Some areas that you should benefit from in the longer run are:


+1 to this post. I use it TruFuel exclusively in my Echo stuff and haven't perceived any difference in power. But it seems to burn much cleaner. I don't have oily residue on the outsides of the mufflers. It doesn't stain the nice clear fuel tanks with a dark color as dark post-mix does. I switched my old Echo GT-200R to TruFuel a season or two ago. I was too late for the stained fuel tank, but my oily residue on the muffler never returned after I cleaned the old residue off. I used to run 50:1 Echo PowerBlend, but liked TruFuel enough to start using it exclusively.

I bought two new pieces of Echo equipment last year...an ES-250 leaf shredder/blower and a PAS-225 power head. Both have been run on TruFuel only, and they look like brand new equipment, despite having run through countless tanks of fuel.

 

[FastGame]

It's been said in many forums that TruFuel 50:1 uses Klotz oil, don't know for sure that's true ?? My cheap Homelite string trimmer has run Klotz for 20+ yrs. and the engine shows no signs of dying. I think the TruFuel types are great for those who dont use their equipment much.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: FastGame
It's been said in many forums that TruFuel 50:1 uses Klotz oil, don't know for sure that's true ?? My cheap Homelite string trimmer has run Klotz for 20+ yrs. and the engine shows no signs of dying. I think the TruFuel types are great for those who dont use their equipment much.


What color is Klotz oil, and where do you get it?

One of the things I like about TruFuel is it has such a clean and clear look to it. Nothing gets stained. The fuel tank, the primer bulb, the fuel lines, etc. They all stay looking brand new.

If there was a concentrate out there I could buy that would maintain the clear appearance of the fuel, I'd try that as well.

 

[FastGame]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: FastGame
It's been said in many forums that TruFuel 50:1 uses Klotz oil, don't know for sure that's true ?? My cheap Homelite string trimmer has run Klotz for 20+ yrs. and the engine shows no signs of dying. I think the TruFuel types are great for those who dont use their equipment much.


What color is Klotz oil, and where do you get it?

One of the things I like about TruFuel is it has such a clean and clear look to it. Nothing gets stained. The fuel tank, the primer bulb, the fuel lines, etc. They all stay looking brand new.

If there was a concentrate out there I could buy that would maintain the clear appearance of the fuel, I'd try that as well.


The last I checked TruFuel might look clear but I poured some in glass jars and in the sun light 50:1 had light red tint, 40:1 had light green tint. This was compared side by side with jar and clear water. The coloring is only an added dye. TruFuel could buy bulk un-dyed oil and add the tints to distinguish their 50:1 & 40:1 ???

In Michigan Klotz is at most bike, snow mobile, ATV shops. I use R50. All the 2 cycle oils I've seen are dyed so I don't know where to get clear ones.