Transmission Failing on my Silverado

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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Makes me glad that my transmission is massive overkill for my application. I'm the opposite of your driving style. I tow frequently and drive hard.



Ahhhh, yes. The transmission so perfect that it was likely made by the hand of God himself... So ultimate that not a single one has ever failed... ever... We're all very happy for you and your bulletproof transmission. [/sarcasm]

Nothing personal... but really, dude. Do you realize how old this shtick is getting? I think we've all heard about it... at least two or three times in recent memory.

We're all happy for you and your vehicle. Really.
 
These transmissions had a lot of failures with the sun shell gear going out in them. Usually you would lose first and third and reverse, IIRC. If that's the case i've usually just gotten a junk yard transmission and throw it in and i'm off.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Makes me glad that my transmission is massive overkill for my application. I'm the opposite of your driving style. I tow frequently and drive hard.



Ahhhh, yes. The transmission so perfect that it was likely made by the hand of God himself... So ultimate that not a single one has ever failed... ever... We're all very happy for you and your bulletproof transmission. [/sarcasm]

Nothing personal... but really, dude. Do you realize how old this shtick is getting? I think we've all heard about it... at least two or three times in recent memory.

We're all happy for you and your vehicle. Really.




Was that really necessary?
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Makes me glad that my transmission is massive overkill for my application. I'm the opposite of your driving style. I tow frequently and drive hard.



Ahhhh, yes. The transmission so perfect that it was likely made by the hand of God himself... So ultimate that not a single one has ever failed... ever... We're all very happy for you and your bulletproof transmission. [/sarcasm]

Nothing personal... but really, dude. Do you realize how old this shtick is getting? I think we've all heard about it... at least two or three times in recent memory.

We're all happy for you and your vehicle. Really.




Was that really necessary?


Of course it was. As was the explicit mention of it being "impersonal", whilst the message conveyed of course was anything but. He also made use of the novelty "sarcasm" flags so we really got an idea of how he was feeling.

Nothing personal about that post at all.

I'm pretty sure the OP is just wishing he wasn't having these problems. As I stated, my uncle, who likely has the same transmission, has had ZERO problems with his, and that's with essentially zero maintenance.

The thread direction appeared to be headed toward the well-intended maintenance potentially CAUSING the issue....

But hey, let's make the thread about me instead because I happen to drive something from the other side of the fence that has been reliable and I made mention of it.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
My next door neighbor is the general manager for a construction equipment dealership, and they don't baby their Chevy/GMC pickup trucks at all. He's got a small fleet of GMT800's ('99-'07) and a few GMT900's right now.

I'll send him an email and see what his history is as far as transmissions. Since I have a Silverado, I've asked him about changing the transmission fluid and filter on his trucks, and he's told me that he doesn't worry about it.

I know that he's had a 1999, a 2002, a 2006, and a 2009 (all Silverados) since he's lived next door to me, and I can't recall him ever having a major failure of any sort, with any of them.

When he gets a new one, they throw his old one (usually with around 90k on it) into the pool for the mechanics to finish off.
I know that they're still using the 2002, I just saw him driving it the other day.

That's odd, Mike.... will be interested to hear what is discovered.


How'd you make out with this? Or were you too busy being "impersonal" with me that you forgot about it?

I for one would like to hear this gentleman you speak of's experience, since it sounds like it covers a broad range of trucks.
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Nothing personal... but really, dude. Do you realize how old this shtick is getting? I think we've all heard about it... at least two or three times in recent memory.

We're all happy for you and your vehicle. Really.




Was that really necessary?


Can you tell me how telling the OP that the transmission in his Expedition is so perfect for his application, adds anything of immediate value to THIS particular discussion?

Sure, we're all happy for him.... but that tidbit of information doesn't help the OP at all.

That comes across as being a bit arrogant to me. Yeah... your transmission broke... but the transmission in my completely different type of vehicle from a different manufacturer works just fine.

Why even mention it?
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
My next door neighbor is the general manager for a construction equipment dealership, and they don't baby their Chevy/GMC pickup trucks at all. He's got a small fleet of GMT800's ('99-'07) and a few GMT900's right now.

I'll send him an email and see what his history is as far as transmissions. Since I have a Silverado, I've asked him about changing the transmission fluid and filter on his trucks, and he's told me that he doesn't worry about it.

I know that he's had a 1999, a 2002, a 2006, and a 2009 (all Silverados) since he's lived next door to me, and I can't recall him ever having a major failure of any sort, with any of them.

When he gets a new one, they throw his old one (usually with around 90k on it) into the pool for the mechanics to finish off.
I know that they're still using the 2002, I just saw him driving it the other day.

That's odd, Mike.... will be interested to hear what is discovered.


How'd you make out with this? Or were you too busy being "impersonal" with me that you forgot about it?

I for one would like to hear this gentleman you speak of's experience, since it sounds like it covers a broad range of trucks.


We're just coming off of a three day holiday weekend here in the states. He's likely in the office at the moment, but I'd assume that he's dealing with more pressing issues than my question right now.
 
I'm wondering what your extended warranty will cover. Will you be able to upgrade? I watched a recent episode of Truck U, they were going through common problems on GM trucks and one was the transmission, there is a wearing spot (sorry I dont remember where ) that could actually put a hole in the housing. The prevenative fix was a aftermarket upgarde ringyagimmie. You may want to watch it ( check online and see if that was it. Then make sure your new one has that fix. Good Luck man- I'm at 140 k with mine so I got lucky, so far
 
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
I have had a healthy exposure to 4L60E's and 4L65E's. They are a decent, adequate transmission in my book. If they don't break in 60,000 miles you'll get 500,000 miles out of them.


The sun shell in my 4L60E broke at 75,000. I'm surprised by the OP's failure, that one seems new enough to have had the upgraded sun shell and planetaries.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
But hey, let's make the thread about me instead because I happen to drive something from the other side of the fence that has been reliable and I made mention of it.


Let me ask this.

What purpose does it serve, to tell a guy who is lamenting that he may have lost the transmission in his pickup, a truck that he so obviously takes care of, how good that you think that the transmission is in your SUV?

What's the purpose of such an oddly timed statement?

Could it be a bit of schadenfreude? If not, what is it? I honestly don't understand why you brought it into the discussion, other than to boast or brag about it.

You're the one who made it about you. I only pointed it out. And now I'm the one who is the bad guy?

Come on.
 
Well, regardless, I hope the OP has good luck with his transmission and the extended warranty covers it.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
But hey, let's make the thread about me instead because I happen to drive something from the other side of the fence that has been reliable and I made mention of it.


Let me ask this.

What purpose does it serve, to tell a guy who is lamenting that he may have lost the transmission in his pickup, a truck that he so obviously takes care of, how good that you think that the transmission is in your SUV?

What's the purpose of such an oddly timed statement?

Could it be a bit of schadenfreude? If not, what is it? I honestly don't understand why you brought it into the discussion, other than to boast or brag about it.

You're the one who made it about you. I only pointed it out. And now I'm the one who is the bad guy?

Come on.


You made a big hurrah about it. I simply mentioned it because he listed his driving style as being the COMPLETE opposite of mine; and in response to that I simply stated I'm glad that mine is "over-equipped" for my driving style. That's ALL I was trying to say! I'm sure you'd be happy if your 5.3L had the freakin' Alison behind it; you could try to tow a bulldozer and never hurt it. That was the ONLY reason I mentioned it.

This thread makes this transmission sound fragile. Which I'm sure it isn't. That is also why I'm interested to hear what your friend has to say.
 
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Well, regardless, I hope the OP has good luck with his transmission and the extended warranty covers it.



Agreed.

Do you think it could have been "maintained to death" as seems to be alluded to? Or rather just a freak failure?
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Well, regardless, I hope the OP has good luck with his transmission and the extended warranty covers it.



Agreed.

Do you think it could have been "maintained to death" as seems to be alluded to? Or rather just a freak failure?



Well, I was trying to stay out of this one but since you asked...
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I think it was probably a freak failure however I still can't get it out of my mind that perhaps the shop did something wrong when changing the filter and fluid. I mean -it is real easy to forget to check that the old rubber o-ring is out of the filter inlet and jam the new filter on and then yuo have fluid pressure issues. This could cause a sudden failure like that. I can't say that the 4L60e is the best transmission out there for sure, but it ain't that bad.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Horsecrap!

That's a freak failure, could easily be due to the filter install or wrong fluids used.

We have run many 4L60E's and their brethren, 4L65E's for OVER 200k. And they are never babied here!
Most transmission failures I have seen have been from broken parts. Yeah there are the few that have black oil.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
My next door neighbor is the general manager for a construction equipment dealership, and they don't baby their Chevy/GMC pickup trucks at all. He's got a small fleet of GMT800's ('99-'07) and a few GMT900's right now.


Talked to my neighbor at a meeting tonight, he said that they haven't lost an engine or a transmission in any of their pickups in at least the last 10 years.

He said their repairs generally consist of pads and rotors, batteries, and an occasional starter or alternator. They don't ever change transmission fluid or filters as a maintenance item either.

They just took delivery of a new '10 Chevy pickup, and sent a '99 Chevy pickup with 186,000 miles on it to a new home.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
My next door neighbor is the general manager for a construction equipment dealership, and they don't baby their Chevy/GMC pickup trucks at all. He's got a small fleet of GMT800's ('99-'07) and a few GMT900's right now.


Talked to my neighbor at a meeting tonight, he said that they haven't lost an engine or a transmission in any of their pickups in at least the last 10 years.

He said their repairs generally consist of pads and rotors, batteries, and an occasional starter or alternator. They don't ever change transmission fluid or filters as a maintenance item either.

They just took delivery of a new '10 Chevy pickup, and sent a '99 Chevy pickup with 186,000 miles on it to a new home.


That's the way my uncle has been with his.... And it has been rock solid....
 
We have had good luck at my company with the Chevy Express van. No engines or transmissions, or anything that bolts on to the engine. brakes last 50-70k miles, and batteries. I have had two vans that had a stuck open thermostat, that was repaired no charge under the 100k powertrain warranty.
 
Well.. yesterday I dropped off the truck to the dealer. They have a transmission guy on staff that will be looking into it.

Again, the only things that have been done was a fluid change at 25k from the dealer and again by me roughly 6 months ago. I used almost 14 quarts of Supertech Dex 6 and added a magnefine filter on the RETURN side. The internal filter is still original.

The AT shifted absolutely perfect the entire time I've owned the truck.

I'm leaning towards a freak failure, but we'll see what the tech says. Luckily, my father had AAA and the towing has been free. I must say they've done a good job and used a flatbed each time.

I can get a rental with my extended warranty, but declined so far. I live on a bus route and can ride to work. And my wife and I have the Honda as well when we both need to go somewhere.

I typically drive in the city and haven't taken it out on the HW for a long trip in over a year. I do drive on the interstate and get it up to speed (55MPH-70) occasionally, but not for a long period of time. Maybe I've had a problem for some time and not realized it, but I haven't felt/heard anything unusual.
 
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