TPMS programming question

[supton]

Need to buy snow tires for our Camry, and haven’t found rims on CL. Tempted to buy a set from Tire Rack and even spring for the sensors. TR lists a ATEQ VT37 which says it can program? If I buy a set of wheels with sensors, can I read my current sensors, and program the same codes into the new sensors?

Usually I would just ignore the light but its the wife’s car and that’s that.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

TR/DT TPMS sensors are overpiced

Better to just buy sensors from Rock Auto that don't require any programming.

I found these and these

 

[Astro_Guy]

Are you asking about how to register the sensors with the car? I'd like to know the answer to that question.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Many vehicles just read them automatically. I don't know about Toyota. My Pilot read all 4 new just by installing them. My sons Forte the same way.

only odd one is daughters '08 CRV. ECU holds 4.

You would need to read yours with something if you want to clone them to another. Anything that can read them could probably upload any other codes just as easy.

Also check Facebook marketplace. I found much more on FB than on Craigslist lately.

Also check wheel-size.com and put your information in and get specs. Then you can search by size with a +/- on offset for which other vehicles. Nissan/Hyundai might fit, Honda many same bolt pattern but center bore is too small. I have Hyundai on my on my Honda. Junkyard put Nissan on the CRV I junked but needed wheels and tires back.

 

[The_Jeff]

Sounds like you want to clone your existing sensors. Sensible.

Random thread from another forum implies it's possible: https://priuschat.com/threads/my-experience-with-aftermarket-tpms-sensors.229475/

Might be cheaper somewhere other than tire rack as well.

 

[supton]

Yes, cloning would be easier than programming the car I think. Even if I could, I would still need to read anything new for their codes.

 

[edyvw]

Many vehicles just read them automatically. I don't know about Toyota. My Pilot read all 4 new just by installing them. My sons Forte the same way.

only odd one is daughters '08 CRV. ECU holds 4.

You would need to read yours with something if you want to clone them to another. Anything that can read them could probably upload any other codes just as easy.

Also check Facebook marketplace. I found much more on FB than on Craigslist lately.

Also check wheel-size.com and put your information in and get specs. Then you can search by size with a +/- on offset for which other vehicles. Nissan/Hyundai might fit, Honda many same bolt pattern but center bore is too small. I have Hyundai on my on my Honda. Junkyard put Nissan on the CRV I junked but needed wheels and tires back.

It is Toyota. Sometimes in 2546 they will design TPMS system to read it automatically.

 

[nthach]

The Ateq tool will work with most programmable sensors(Schrader OneSensor, BHSens, Max Sensor, Alligator), unlock Conti/VDO RediSensors(Dill distributes them as well) and it can trigger/activate all known sensors. Autel and Launch sensors only work with their tool.

I don’t think the VT37 is capable of doing relearns via OBD, which is required for Toyota, Honda and Subaru. If the tool is branded, it will only work with that brand of sensor. I picked up a MX41 for cheap. It will only program Max Sensor brand sensors.

 

[supton]

I think I did the relearn step once on the car, after a rotation, but then never again. All tires get the same psi and there is no way to read the psi while in the car, so no relearn is necessary (if I’m understanding correctly).

Just need to figure out what sensors TR uses before pulling any trigger. And cross shop I guess.

 

[mcm0455]

My 23 Lexus GX460 took five minutes of driving around to register the TMPS sensors from TireRack.com.

 

[The Critic]

Need to buy snow tires for our Camry, and haven’t found rims on CL. Tempted to buy a set from Tire Rack and even spring for the sensors. TR lists a ATEQ VT37 which says it can program? If I buy a set of wheels with sensors, can I read my current sensors, and program the same codes into the new sensors?

Usually I would just ignore the light but its the wife’s car and that’s that.

If you have two sets of wheels, it is best to NOT clone the existing sensors. If both sets of tires are near each other, you will sometimes get a false warning for no reason.

If you have techstream or a higher-end aftermarket scan tools, you can "write" the TPMS id into the TPMS ECU as-needed.

I have been using the Autel MX sensors with great success but I do have the tool to program them.

 

[supton]

Yeah, I don't have any tools at the moment, outside of a Scanguage (which doesn't do anything for me here). Ironically was just poking around this morning at what my options are, as I'm still procrastinating on this (not a small bill!). Today has found the Autel TS508 which I guess can plug into ODB and transfer codes directly into the ECU? seems a bit questionable. At the moment looking to see what the car can do, if it can relearn on its own then maybe I don't need any tool--a scan tool for TPMS might be good to have around, I guess.

 

[edyvw]

My 23 Lexus GX460 took five minutes of driving around to register the TMPS sensors from TireRack.com.

So on GX it register automatically but on Toyota of that year I think you have to plug in numbers? Or you have to do that on GX too and then it register?

 

[The Critic]

So on GX it register automatically but on Toyota of that year I think you have to plug in numbers? Or you have to do that on GX too and then it register?

Many Toyota/Lexus products after the 22 or 23MY will have the ability to retain two different sets of TPMS and have a self-learning function.

 

[The Critic]

Yeah, I don't have any tools at the moment, outside of a Scanguage (which doesn't do anything for me here). Ironically was just poking around this morning at what my options are, as I'm still procrastinating on this (not a small bill!). Today has found the Autel TS508 which I guess can plug into ODB and transfer codes directly into the ECU? seems a bit questionable. At the moment looking to see what the car can do, if it can relearn on its own then maybe I don't need any tool--a scan tool for TPMS might be good to have around, I guess.

Probably good to have one these days -- need it for brake maintenance and coolant bleeding on your fleet. Otofix is whitebox Autel and priced extremely well. You can have a great tool for under $400.

 

[cheech279]

I'm stuck with the non-learning sensors from Discount Tire on my 2007 Infiniti. The replacement brand was Dill. While the Nissan/Infiniti OEM sensors self-program after 50-100 miles and give individual tire pressures for each wheel, the Dill sensors have to be programmed at each tire rotation. PITA but as I recall the Infiniti dealer replacement price was sky high.

 

[The Critic]

I'm stuck with the non-learning sensors from Discount Tire on my 2007 Infiniti. The replacement brand was Dill. While the Nissan/Infiniti OEM sensors self-program after 50-100 miles and give individual tire pressures for each wheel, the Dill sensors have to be programmed at each tire rotation. PITA but as I recall the Infiniti dealer replacement price was sky high.

That doesn't sound right. The TPMS ID's are static once written into the sensor. Unless your vehicle's TPMS is position sensitive, rotating the tires should not have any impact on TPMS functionality.

 

[rstsco]

I recently bought a set of wheels off CL to mount winter tires for the Pilot, and found Honda-branded TPMS sensors online for under $20 each, which was less than aftermarket sensors would have cost. When DT installed the tires, they verified the sensors were working correctly using their tool. So if you have DT install the tires, wheels, and sensors, they should be able to program the new sensors to your car.

FYI, the Honda picks up the new sensors automatically.

 

[cheech279]

That doesn't sound right. The TPMS ID's are static once written into the sensor. Unless your vehicle's TPMS is position sensitive, rotating the tires should not have any impact on TPMS functionality.

My Infiniti TPMS is position sensitive, I believe. You can access the individual tire pressures on the information screen even though the technology is 18 years old. The other issue may be the quirky nature of the Nissan/Infiniti TPMS technology not being able to read an aftermarket sensor like Dill.

 

[supton]

I recently bought a set of wheels off CL to mount winter tires for the Pilot, and found Honda-branded TPMS sensors online for under $20 each, which was less than aftermarket sensors would have cost. When DT installed the tires, they verified the sensors were working correctly using their tool. So if you have DT install the tires, wheels, and sensors, they should be able to program the new sensors to your car.

I was trying to just mailorder this setup, rather than hit up a tire shop. Our cars are sedans and while moving a set of wheels is possible... it's a pain.

FYI, the Honda picks up the new sensors automatically.

But I drive a Toyota... which tends to have the most primitive stuff. I don't think it's capable of learning anything. I mean, all the time I've spent yelling at it to stop beeping--it's never once stopped until it felt like it.

Probably good to have one these days -- need it for brake maintenance and coolant bleeding on your fleet. Otofix is whitebox Autel and priced extremely well. You can have a great tool for under $400.

Good to know, will look at them ($500! ouch). I've been ignoring coolant so far as at least one of my car needs a vacuum to do the job, and I'm only just to the age/miles for it. I would still need a tool to read a set of wheels from Tire Rack so as to get the sensor ID's though.

As for brakes, I gave up and just hit the motors with 12V. Unplug, use alligator clips (99% of the time I have to reverse polarity), wind out. Wind in when done. Pretty easy. I tried CareCareNut's proceedure (supposedly in the manual?) but it never worked for me.