Toyota Stops Sales?

[ZGRider]

"Toyota has suspended U.S. sales of eight models, which were recalled to fix accelerator pedals that might stick. These models are: 2005-10 Avalaon, 2007-10 Camry, 2009-10 Corolla, 2010 Highlander, 2009-10 Matrix, 2009-10 RAV4, 2008-10 Sequoia and 2007-10 Tundra."

"Until Tuesday, Toyota had said it would continue making and selling the 2010 versions of the recalled models. It said the sticking-throttle problem appears only with age and wear, so new ones are safe."

"Toyota's sticking-throttle recall is different from the recall of 4.2 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles late last year. In that one, throttles could get jammed open by floor mats. Toyota is trimming the gas pedals and later will replace them with pedals of a different design."

"However, 1.7 million vehicles in the latest recall also are included in the floor-mat-related recall."

Sounds a little like Ford and GM...? But they never stopped production and stopped the dealers from selling recalled vehicles?

 

[ZGRider]

Just allowing some more discussion after last thread was locked

 

[Billy_D]

They did the right thing by stopping the sales of new vehicles until they fix the problem. It's a shame that their quality is going downhill.

 

[brandini]

Billy, the feds made them, it wasn't voluntary.

 

[bluestream]

Apparently, the defective part was made by CTS Corp of Elkhart IN

 

[boraticus]

For some clarification, my wife owns a 2007 Camry and she received a recall notice. I called the dealership and they advised that there are two types of throttle control devices that the affected cars may have. I was advised to bring the vehicle in to have it inspected for the type of accelerator components. It may, or may not require changing of the accelerator parts. I was also told that the replacement parts are in short supply and we will be contacted when they're in. It will be interesting to see exactly what is being replaced.

In addition to the above, I was advised that the defective accelerator(s) does not suddenly cause the car to go out of control. The defective units tend to be slow to return to neutral position or catch and grab. If the car has never exhibited these symptoms, chances are that it's alright. We've never had an issue with ours. Nonetheless we will be bringing it in for inspection.

Regarding recalls for Toyota vs. domestics. Nobody makes a perfect product. I believe that in over thirty years of importing/manufacturing vehicles into/in North America, Toyota still have the better record.

It's not often that the proponents of domestic vehicles get a chance to take a shot at an Asian manufacturer. I say, shoot away. Enjoy it while the opportunity exists.....

 

[rszappa1]

The part that was made in Japan was OK...............

 

[rszappa1]

I think the Big little three would love to see this hurt toyota....but it wont...people will still purchase there cars over others...

 

[Jonny Z]

FOR RELEASE: Immediately


CTS Comments on Toyota’s January 21 Safety Voluntary Recall


Elkhart, IN…CTS Corporation (NYSE: CTS) today provided comments on Toyota’s recent accelerator pedal recall. As previously announced by Toyota, the January 21 voluntary recall results from what Toyota described as “a rare set of conditions which may cause the accelerator pedal to become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.” Toyota said this condition “is rare and occurs gradually over a period of time.”

As has been publically stated by Toyota, we have no knowledge of any accidents or injuries that have resulted from this rare potential condition. Based on information that Toyota has provided us, we are aware of fewer than a dozen instances where this condition has occurred, and in no instance did the accelerator actually become stuck in a partially depressed condition.

As Toyota stated, this recall is different from and unrelated to the “sudden, unintended acceleration issue” which was the subject of the November 2009 Toyota recall. In the November recall, the pedals in Toyota models dated back to model year 2002. CTS became a pedal supplier in 2005. Accordingly, our products are not implicated by the November 2009 recall. The products we supply to Toyota, including the pedals covered by the recent recall, have been manufactured to Toyota’s design specifications.

Toyota is a small, but important, customer of CTS, representing approximately 3% of our annual sales. CTS has been actively working with Toyota for awhile to develop a new pedal to meet tougher specifications from Toyota. The newly designed pedal is now tested and parts are beginning to ship to some Toyota factories.

 

[Norse]

Originally Posted By: Jonny Z
FOR RELEASE: Immediately


CTS Comments on Toyota’s January 21 Safety Voluntary Recall


The products we supply to Toyota, including the pedals covered by the recent recall, have been manufactured to Toyota’s design specifications.

 

[Mustang_Cougar]

Toyota and CTS employ American workers...workers who earn decent, middle-class wages & benefits.

I wish people would remember that before engaging in schadenfreude. Strong Toyota & Honda products force American manufacturers to try harder to compete; The "Buy American" sentiments for GM, Ford & Chrysler force Japanese manufacturers to employ American workers in factories located here. Those are both great things, as we (the consumer) end up with better products and well-paying jobs. Instead of all the tired bickering about these companies, we ought to be focusing on China...as the day is quickly approaching when they will be the 800lb automotive gorilla, able to keep both profits AND jobs overseas.

In there interim, I hope Toyota quickly fixes this problem, I hope Ford continues to crank out winners, I hope GM can repay their loans soon and I hope a miracle happens at Chrysler. In otherwords, I don't get my rocks off seeing any company that employs American workers fail...

 

[Diesel_Clatter]

Originally Posted By: Jonny Z
FOR RELEASE: Immediately


CTS Comments on Toyota’s January 21 Safety Voluntary Recall


Elkhart, IN…CTS Corporation (NYSE: CTS) today provided comments on Toyota’s recent accelerator pedal recall. As previously announced by Toyota, the January 21 voluntary recall results from what Toyota described as “a rare set of conditions which may cause the accelerator pedal to become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.” Toyota said this condition “is rare and occurs gradually over a period of time.”

As has been publically stated by Toyota, we have no knowledge of any accidents or injuries that have resulted from this rare potential condition. Based on information that Toyota has provided us, we are aware of fewer than a dozen instances where this condition has occurred, and in no instance did the accelerator actually become stuck in a partially depressed condition.

As Toyota stated, this recall is different from and unrelated to the “sudden, unintended acceleration issue” which was the subject of the November 2009 Toyota recall. In the November recall, the pedals in Toyota models dated back to model year 2002. CTS became a pedal supplier in 2005. Accordingly, our products are not implicated by the November 2009 recall. The products we supply to Toyota, including the pedals covered by the recent recall, have been manufactured to Toyota’s design specifications.

Toyota is a small, but important, customer of CTS, representing approximately 3% of our annual sales. CTS has been actively working with Toyota for awhile to develop a new pedal to meet tougher specifications from Toyota. The newly designed pedal is now tested and parts are beginning to ship to some Toyota factories.



Is it just me or does this bring back memories of Ford vs Firestone...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
For some clarification, my wife owns a 2007 Camry and she received a recall notice. I called the dealership and they advised that there are two types of throttle control devices that the affected cars may have. I was advised to bring the vehicle in to have it inspected for the type of accelerator components. It may, or may not require changing of the accelerator parts. I was also told that the replacement parts are in short supply and we will be contacted when they're in. It will be interesting to see exactly what is being replaced.

In addition to the above, I was advised that the defective accelerator(s) does not suddenly cause the car to go out of control. The defective units tend to be slow to return to neutral position or catch and grab. If the car has never exhibited these symptoms, chances are that it's alright. We've never had an issue with ours. Nonetheless we will be bringing it in for inspection.

Regarding recalls for Toyota vs. domestics. Nobody makes a perfect product. I believe that in over thirty years of importing/manufacturing vehicles into/in North America, Toyota still have the better record.

It's not often that the proponents of domestic vehicles get a chance to take a shot at an Asian manufacturer. I say, shoot away. Enjoy it while the opportunity exists.....


Well their first vehicle, and engine, were both copies of GM products. Not a bad thing, but for "Toyota the infallible" the "engineering master", I just find it a bit comical.

We had the exciting frame rot issue, which is STILL taking place, there was another recall, now for the Tundra added to the list.

There was also the sludge issue which Toyota denied until a class action lawsuit was filed against them.

And now there are "floor mats" and "pedal issues" being used as a smokescreen to cover the issue with Toyota's Kamikaze drive-by-wire system.

But it makes sense really.... Sticking floor mats and pedals sound a LOT less scary than "your car's computer is trying to kill you and we don't know how to stop it yet or why it is happening".

Toyota's track record is far from spotless. But they have a lot of fanboys and apologists as well as a lot of media slant on their side.

 

[ShiningArcanine]

I think this is the first time in world history that a car company stopped selling cars while they worked on an issue their cars were having. I hope this precedent will start a trend.

 

[VNTS]

Originally Posted By: Diesel_Clatter
Originally Posted By: Jonny Z
FOR RELEASE: Immediately


CTS Comments on Toyota’s January 21 Safety Forced Recall


Elkhart, IN…CTS Corporation (NYSE: CTS) today provided comments on Toyota’s recent accelerator pedal recall. As previously announced by Toyota, the January 21 Forced recall results from what Toyota described as “a rare set of conditions which may cause the accelerator pedal to become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.” Toyota said this condition “is rare and occurs gradually over a period of time.”

As has been publically stated by Toyota, we have no knowledge of any accidents or injuries that have resulted from this rare potential condition. Based on information that Toyota has provided us, we are aware of fewer than a dozen instances where this condition has occurred, and in no instance did the accelerator actually become stuck in a partially depressed condition.

As Toyota stated, this recall is different from and unrelated to the “sudden, unintended acceleration issue” which was the subject of the November 2009 Toyota recall. In the November recall, the pedals in Toyota models dated back to model year 2002. CTS became a pedal supplier in 2005. Accordingly, our products are not implicated by the November 2009 recall. The products we supply to Toyota, including the pedals covered by the recent recall, have been manufactured to Toyota’s design specifications.

Toyota is a small, but important, customer of CTS, representing approximately 3% of our annual sales. CTS has been actively working with Toyota for awhile to develop a new pedal to meet tougher specifications from Toyota. The newly designed pedal is now tested and parts are beginning to ship to some Toyota factories.



Is it just me or does this bring back memories of Ford vs Firestone...


The Firestone issue is why the Feds now have rules and while Toyota continues to spin this in the media that they are voluntarily doing this, the law prevents them from selling cars. Even the stupid local media up here flubbed their report. They dont have a fix yet and dont know what the problem is.

But hey

Toyota moving Forward, with or without Driver Input

 

[rszappa1]

and I am sure the parts that Ford had to recall that caught on fire dealing with the speed control was made to fords specs and the recalls that GM has made were made to GM specs also....

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rszappa1
and I am sure the parts that Ford had to recall that caught on fire dealing with the speed control was made to fords specs and the recalls that GM has made were made to GM specs also....


Actually, the Ford part is generic. Used by other manufacturers. The problem was an engineering screw-up that kept the device hot at all times.

Other manufacturers have the device switched. Which makes perfect sense.

That being said, I'd much rather have my vehicle potentially catch fire in the driveway with nobody in it than suddenly go WOT by itself with my entire family inside.

Not saying either scenario encompasses a favourable outcome, but at least the former, lest it catches your house on fire, is much less likely to kill you.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: VNTS
Toyota moving Forward, with or without Driver Input

Seriously though, I hope this all ends well for everyone. These things happen, regardless who the mfg is.

 

[rszappa1]

i think that all this is just to be able to bash them...and to be fair just as others bash the Big three for there problems....We seem to get all giddy about other peoples problems....

 

[rszappa1]

There are two recalls on 2008 ford focus.... So are those any differenct...are the parts in question made to ford standards...or is there an excuse for them because you may like there products and they can do no wrong....