After doing your best ..what did you do that was your best!?they look clean!
Top Tier Stations Detergent Levels
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My research is ..Phillips 66 has 3 times the detergent of top tier standards. Shell 93 has 5 or 7 times detergency..it's one of those 2. Mobil gas synergy. Shell reg has twice detergency . I always use Lucas ucl in my fill ups. Always got about 197 miles with shell, 207-210 miles and out 200-207 with Phillips. I record everything pad pen I keep in car in folder. But this is with winterized gas. When they stop winterizing gas, Mobil I'll get about 237-245 miles, phillips about 237 max so Mobil synergy is best. Citgo I averaged about 193-197;miles. Have had times it went too 210-212 miles but not consistently. I use Phillips because recently Mobil 87 here went from $3.17 gallon too $3.34 now credit....Phillips and shell are $3.19 gallon. 2 other shells here are like $3.45..mobil across town,poor section is about$3.34 and so is sunoco.id Mobil was lower price ide be using it. Phillips is the winner
I don't think they've ever claimed that. They've claimed that their detergent concentration was over 3x that required for EPA minimums, but that typical Top Tier minimums might be about 2.5x EPA minimums. They've more or less used the same ad copy for 76 and Conoco.
Raising the bar with every drop.
Good news for drivers everywhere – our fuel has 3 times more detergent than the minimum required by the EPA and 30% more than the minimum specified in the TOP TIER® Detergent Gasoline standard recommended by major car manufacturers.
Everything except walnut blasting. Lots of solvents, picks, zip ties in drills and shop vac-ing. I was replacing a water pump and figured I'd clean the intake valves real quick while I had access to them. Ended up being by far the most time consuming and labor intensive part of the whole job.
It looks like sludge but it's hard as a rock, nearly impervious to chemicals and has become one with the engine.
Anybody planning on doing this, trust me, just get the walnut blaster lol
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I once said to a coworker dude your wife works at Vanguard their health care is cheap why are you on ours it’s expensive…he said long story. Next happy hour he showed up with a voluptuous young gf….
Yes huge Costco fan here it solves my gas and other problems too. We have been memebers since 2009 but once they opened near my office big benefit
Some general comments on the video and other information:
The belief seems to be that more and more additive is always better even though people don’t know what the heck the additive is composed of. Are all additives equally effective and serve the same purpose?
Unspoken is how much the additive adds to the cost per gallon. Is it significant?
And the video says more additives mean better gas mileage. Not so in the short or medium term.
The belief seems to be that more and more additive is always better even though people don’t know what the heck the additive is composed of. Are all additives equally effective and serve the same purpose?
Unspoken is how much the additive adds to the cost per gallon. Is it significant?
And the video says more additives mean better gas mileage. Not so in the short or medium term.
I'm aware. But that's not a business membership, correct?
With a business membership, the basic annual fee is higher, and as they note there's going to be a fee for each extra card attached to the membership.
And that's why it's more complicated than just getting a second card with your wife's membership
The annual fee is not higher, it's exactly the same.
There is no extra fee to attach an extra card to the membership, it comes with an extra household card for free, and that's not a thing Costco does. At all. With any memberships. That's just buying another membership, not attaching anything to an existing one.
I thought all circle Ks were top tier?
Around here they ar either Valero or shell
I've seen them before at various stations. Shell likes to make a big deal out of it.
I had a Kia for a while before my ex got it, and the owner's manual actually did say that if you didn't run Top Tier gas all the time they recommended a bottle of Techron every 5,000 miles.
For some reason, all the auto makers recommend either Techron or something they're buying from Chevron, tripling the cost of, and selling. GM's "totally not Techron" is a 12 ounce bottle, costs over $20 (at Amazon, the dealerships don't even seem to know about it), and AC Delco-labeled, and they sell it and say add it to the gas even though GM's official statement is "don't use any fuel system treatments".
Really anything with a decent amount of PEA in it should work. Techron keeps cutting the PEA and raising the price. I don't think that's really competitive anymore.
I should probably mention I asked the guy at the parts counter at a Kia dealer what they had for in tank detergents and they sell Gumout, really expensive. Probably send people down to Walmart and come back with some.
Are there any brands of gasoline that actually have these harmful materials in them and if they damage emissions components, aren't they illegal?
BP also owns Thornton's, which is everywhere in Illinois, and not nearly as expensive as BP branded stations.
I don't get to the big urban areas. Never seen a Thornton's. I see the one long time Standard/Amoco/BP truck stop in my area switched to a Phillips 66. There use to be a lot of them but they all went Circle K a few years ago. The local mom and pop gas station I use to get all my premium gas from use to be a Phillips 66. Phillips use to own the other fuel depot that services the area.
Costco adds the additive while the tanks are filling. Tanker driver tells them how much he is dropping and the attendant enters it into the additive meter system. It’s added in the fill stream to mix it.
Costco’s latest magazine has an article about them improving the add package for DI engines, to better clean the injectors. Yesterday I asked an attendant if he knew about that and he didn’t. Said he’s the low man on the totem pole. I guess they have just started adding the new detergent package as the old runs out and aren’t really telling anybody other than their members.
I believe that. The Costco station I worked at measured the additive automatically, but it was a brand new station, I could see an older station not having that automatic feature.
The attendant not knowing about a new additive package also checks out. They would tell managers but not regular employees. Too much going on to update everyone on everything.
I always skip those stations too, unless I have no choice, but for Costco I don't care. Only because I know they have their sh*t together. Or at least mine did.
The thing is additizing the whole time the trucks are unloading and it's designed to maintain consistent additive levels in the fuel it's dispensing while the trucks are unloading. That's a selling point of the system they use. And they're getting several deliveries a day, so you gotta figure there's probably 100 cars a day, everyday, pumping gas while the truck is unloading so if something was really wrong with it I figure people would complain.
Everywhere else though ya I just drive to the next station
Yes. Each pump has a filter that is changed as soon as the flow rate starts slowing down. Some Costco's get 10-12 tankers a day. If there were problems you would hear about it.
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