Top Tier Gas a scam?

[flinter]

Hi,

Is Top Teir Gas just a marketing scam?? I see BP is NOT listed as a Top Teir and I have been using them for many years with no issues at all.

Thoughts?

 

[volk06]

No, it's clearly not a marketing scam as they have established criteria, and it is well above the EPA minimum for detergency in fuel.

Its up to the company as to whether or not they want to pay to be Top Tier. BP is probably Top Tier quality, but they don't want to pay the fee.

 

[vwmaniaman]

I also use BP and have had no issues with it.

 

[jkasch]

Hi,

Is Top Teir Gas just a marketing scam?? I see BP is NOT listed as a Top Teir and I have been using them for many years with no issues at all.

Thoughts?

BP used to be Top Tier. Not sure if they reduced the detergent levels or just quit paying for certification.

 

[Sayjac]

No, TT gas not a scam at all. It's virtually all I use. In BP case, they still use their proprietary "Invigorate" add pack, same as when TT listed. But as noted, choose now not to pay TT listing fee.

 

[KYMISTWALKER]

I think top-tier gasoline is the best in small engines, does BP still offer a 94 octane? I run it in my small engines here at home. I know it’s 93. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Zee09]

Everything is a scam my friend says

 

[rstsco]

AAA study finds Top Tier gas brands offer big advantages.

 

[CarlB]

Hi,

Is Top Teir Gas just a marketing scam?? I see BP is NOT listed as a Top Teir and I have been using them for many years with no issues at all.

Thoughts?

Is tradition a good reason to dismiss top tier?

 

[flinter]

Is tradition a good reason to dismiss top tier?

Huh??

 

[MasterSolenoid]

Everything is a scam my friend says

If anyone tells me they like wicker-furniture.
I always tell them .... "wicker-furniture is a scam".
They never know what I mean, and I don't either .... LOL.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Hi,

Is Top Teir Gas just a marketing scam?? I see BP is NOT listed as a Top Teir and I have been using them for many years with no issues at all.

Thoughts?

No. It's no different than changing your oil every 5k miles.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I think there is only 1 refinery around here, in Richmond. So not sure how 1 station could sell gas that is that much different than another...

 

[Tdbo]

I want a clean, well lit, high volume station to dispense my fuel at the best possible price.
If a facility blessed by the Top Tier Gods can provide me that, fine.
Otherwise, I'm not going to obsess about it.
Life goes on.

 

[rstsco]

I think there is only 1 refinery around here, in Richmond. So not sure how 1 station could sell gas that is that much different than another...

Additive packages are blended into the tanker at distribution centers as they are being loaded, depending on whom will be receiving the load(s). Similar to ordering concrete. All loads from a concrete plant are not created the same. Some end users want 3000psi while the next wants 5000psi. It's all in how much of each component are added into each truck.

 

[kschachn]

Additive packages are blended into the tanker at distribution centers as they are being loaded, depending on whom will be receiving the load(s). Similar to ordering concrete. All loads from a concrete plant are not created the same. Some end users want 3000psi while the next wants 5000psi. It's all in how much of each component are added into each truck.

Yes not related to the number of refineries in your area.

 

[CarlB]

Huh??

You said:

I see BP is NOT listed as a Top Teir and I have been using them for many years with no issues at all.

 

[Foxtrot08]

Scam? Depends on your definition of scam I guess.


Marketing play? Absolutely.

Is there any difference in “top tier” 87e10, 89e10, 93e10, R90E0 and non-top tier formulations leaving the refinery and/or terminal? No. There is not.

 

[JohnnyG]

Additives are put in at the terminal level. Gasoline is sold as a universal "base" product at the refinery level.

 

[Boomer]

Top Tier is going to Top Tier + in 2024 and expects the new additive packages to be in TT fuels by the end of 2025. The new adds were developed to help with intake valve deposits and injector deposits in DI engines.

"Top Tier Plus" refers to the TOP TIER+™ Gasoline Performance Standard, an updated fuel standard that provides enhanced cleaning and protection for modern gasoline direct injection (GDI) engines and diesel fuel systems. Introduced in late 2024, it includes new performance requirements for GDI engines to prevent deposit buildup, which can harm performance, and it also enhances protection for diesel fuel injection hardware.
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Key benefits for gasoline engines

• Addresses GDI engine needs: Most new vehicles use GDI technology, which requires a higher level of cleaning than traditional engines to prevent deposits.
• Reduces deposits: TOP TIER+™ fuels include additional detergents to specifically target and reduce deposits on injectors and intake valves in GDI engines.
• Protects against SPI: The new standard includes a test to protect against stochastic pre-ignition (SPI), a harmful phenomenon in modern engines that can lead to engine failure.
• Improves performance: By keeping engines clean, it helps maintain optimal fuel economy, performance, and emissions.