Tired of people who are environment' irresponsible

[Popinski]

Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Popinski
Originally Posted By: andrewg
You say your roommate is one of the "biggest wasters I have ever seen". From the detailed description you gave I would say that he really doesn't sound all that bad. He's certainly not harming the environment to the point of being irresponsible in my opinion. If you really have issues with the guy perhaps you should either move out or find another person to live with. Some folks are real thrifty (you) while others are less inclined (the roommate). Throwing the exaggerated label of 'environmentally irresponsible' into the discussion is a bit of a stretch. Ever see the inside of one of the thousands of factories and/or manufacturing plants, warehouses, or even a large shopping mall? Can you even begin to grasp the HUGE amounts of electricity and resources consumed in such places? Waste is rampant, power usage is phenomenal, and countless resources are wasted in a grand scale.....yet you are concerned about your roommate leaving a light on? Yes, I know what's next.....'but if we ALL were more conscious of our resource use in the home, the planet would be better off'....etc. Actually it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.


You have failed at common sense and VERY BASIC responsibility. Let me guess, you throw litter out of your window when there's a trash can 5 feet away? Yes, I am thrifty, but my compliant that was noted on my first post was failure of acknowledging common sense and very very very very basic responsibility.


On the contrary my friend,I expressed my opinion and you disagree. You also missed the point of my ENTIRE post. No big....you'd rather say I throw litter out of my window (where in blazes you got that idea from is beyond me).
I suggest you get some counseling on how to deal with other people that you can't control. Worrying about a roommate that isn't as cheap as you is a waste of time. You've got the 'guts' to express your opinion rather pointedly toward me (on a forum no less), perhaps you should muster up some courage to speak to him in person? Just an idea chief.


Cheap? I'll repeat myself over and over again.

-Basic responsibility
-American responsibility
-Common Sense
-Common Sense
-Common Sense


You seem like my roommate who is irresponsible. This is why I believe people should be tested before making babies so they can be sure to teach their kids the basics in life.

 

[Cristobal]

There's this restaurant where I get coffee in the morning. The cops from the local area will get breakfast or lunch there, and during the whole time, their police vehicles will be sitting out in the parking lot with the engines running. This will be for a full hour or more.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

Originally Posted By: Cristobal
There's this restaurant where I get coffee in the morning. The cops from the local area will get breakfast or lunch there, and during the whole time, their police vehicles will be sitting out in the parking lot with the engines running. This will be for a full hour or more.


I guess the police don't pay for their own gas.

 

[OVERKILL]

Your room mate really doesn't sound all that bad. Maybe if he was burning his garbage in a barrel in the back yard, leaving all the lights on and driving a Super Duty as a commuter vehicle... But his behaviour sounds more "typical" than outright irresponsible. I know many, MANY people who are far "worse" in the environmental responsibility department than him.

But then I'm not one that is irritated by stuff like this. Wait until you have kids.

 

[andrewg]

Originally Posted By: Popinski
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Popinski
Originally Posted By: andrewg
You say your roommate is one of the "biggest wasters I have ever seen". From the detailed description you gave I would say that he really doesn't sound all that bad. He's certainly not harming the environment to the point of being irresponsible in my opinion. If you really have issues with the guy perhaps you should either move out or find another person to live with. Some folks are real thrifty (you) while others are less inclined (the roommate). Throwing the exaggerated label of 'environmentally irresponsible' into the discussion is a bit of a stretch. Ever see the inside of one of the thousands of factories and/or manufacturing plants, warehouses, or even a large shopping mall? Can you even begin to grasp the HUGE amounts of electricity and resources consumed in such places? Waste is rampant, power usage is phenomenal, and countless resources are wasted in a grand scale.....yet you are concerned about your roommate leaving a light on? Yes, I know what's next.....'but if we ALL were more conscious of our resource use in the home, the planet would be better off'....etc. Actually it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.


You have failed at common sense and VERY BASIC responsibility. Let me guess, you throw litter out of your window when there's a trash can 5 feet away? Yes, I am thrifty, but my compliant that was noted on my first post was failure of acknowledging common sense and very very very very basic responsibility.


On the contrary my friend,I expressed my opinion and you disagree. You also missed the point of my ENTIRE post. No big....you'd rather say I throw litter out of my window (where in blazes you got that idea from is beyond me).
I suggest you get some counseling on how to deal with other people that you can't control. Worrying about a roommate that isn't as cheap as you is a waste of time. You've got the 'guts' to express your opinion rather pointedly toward me (on a forum no less), perhaps you should muster up some courage to speak to him in person? Just an idea chief.


Cheap? I'll repeat myself over and over again.

-Basic responsibility
-American responsibility
-Common Sense
-Common Sense
-Common Sense


You seem like my roommate who is irresponsible. This is why I believe people should be tested before making babies so they can be sure to teach their kids the basics in life.

You get upset over very small things fella. It's as though YOU are the sole provider of what you call common sense and everybody with a different opinion is wrong (and shouldn't be allowed to have babies). Quite frankly the attitude you display is a tad bit frightening. Besides....if you are such an obviously HUGE believer in the green movement and all things environmental....what happened to your common sense and basic responsibility to find out about your roommate BEFORE you lived with him? I mean c'mon man, you are about as sphincter tight a person I have ever witnessed on this board....and yet you didn't make SURE that the person you LIVE WITH wouldn't upset the fragile vision you have of the world? Not much common sense there my friend.

 

[pottymouth]

Originally Posted By: Popinski


Cheap? I'll repeat myself over and over again.

-Basic responsibility
-American responsibility
-Common Sense
-Common Sense
-Common Sense


You seem like my roommate who is irresponsible. This is why I believe people should be tested before making babies so they can be sure to teach their kids the basics in life.


I feel for your roommate, living with someone as sanctimonious as you. No doubt if you took a good look at your own life you would see no shortage of examples of wasteful and environmentally unfriendly behavior. Do you eat food that wasn't produced locally? Use a washing machine with chemically produced detergent? Do you commute to work in your own vehicle or use public transportation/carpool? Do use use air conditioning? See where this is going?

If you don't want to pay an equal share in the utility bill, fine. Making negative judgements about the quality of the person becuase he leaves his computer on and uses a dishwasher says more about you than your roomate.

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

Popinski you should be thankful you have the roomate you have if that is all he does..In South Beach alot of people share apts and condos because of the high rent and low wages..I hear never ending stories of nightmare roomates..Some had extremely violent roomates that stabbed them and even worse,alot of them emptied their roomates wallet while they were sleeping or in the shower and stole checks besides the cash..Another stole their roomates ID and that turned into big time nightmare..There is ALOT more but you get where I am going.

BTW when I shared a apt in NYC back in the day their were 2 guys sharing an apt above us on West 54TH Street..One of roomates shot the other one in the head just because he shut off the a/c during a heat wave.

You have zero reasons to complain about your roomate just because he does low loads of laundry,20 minute showers,leaving the a/c when he goes out,taking off too fast in his Civic and cutting his grass with a riding mower.

You really need your own place ASAP cause you really can not live with other people.

 

[buickman50401]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: sciphi

As my generation replaces its first cars with newer ones, at least among my acquaintances the trend is away from the big minivans and SUV's our parents carted us around in. Of the 4-5 people who got new vehicles in the past year, all of those have been midsize or smaller cars.


Wait until the generation has kids... Friends are going through that now. A child seat, stroller and pack and play means that a fairly sizable car like a CRV is effectively a three-person car. Forget adults using the backseat to carpool anymore.

Small cars are great, but kids seem to destroy the practicalityif you're going anywhere by car... And so folks need bigger ones like usual.

Let's not forget how disgustingly obese everyone (including young kids) is.

Very true. My wife an I own 3 vehicles and have a 2 year old and 2 large dogs (Lab and Weimaraner ) My Buick and her Golf are daily drivers. My car is effectively a 3 adult + 1 child car now with the car seat. Her car is a 2 adult + 1 child car and the second adult has to ride in the rear seat behind the driver unless they're really short because the front passenger seat has to be moved quite far forward to allow room for the carseat. I literally cannot fit in the front passenger seat of her car when the carseat is behind it. My knees won't clear the dash enough for me to get all the way in and get the door closed.

Our third vehicle is our utility vehicle used on overnight trips when we have to take the dogs with. Its an '01 Taurus wagon. It has enough room in the rear seat that I don't have to move either of the front seats forward to allow adequate room for the car seat. It has a split 40/60 folding rear bench seat so it allows for room for the dogs and luggage. We also have soft case rooftop carrier to strap to the roof rack in need be.

 

[Popinski]

Now I know why Americans are stereotypically viewed as lazy and wasters of resources. There's too many like my roommate and people on this forum who were not brought up to do basic responsibilities, common sense.

Throw litter out the window when there's a wastebasket 10 feet away......not turning things off when not in use.......go for it..

I'm done. Humans are idiots. And the wrong people are having kids.

 

[greenaccord02]

You know that thing you never, ever do?

Not that one, the other one.

Yeah, drinking liquor. Do it. You and your roommate need to split a bottle of Jack Daniels (the liter, not the chintzy .750) shot for shot and get hammered drunk. Really drunk, like the kind of drunk where you get the urge to light stuff on fire for no reason and fight because the other guy looked at you the wrong way or implied something through his tone of voice.

When you wake up either one of you will be dead or you'll be friends for life. It really works.

 

[greenaccord02]

A good way to do this is to watch Total Recall and take a shot every time they say "Mars."

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

I think geeenaccord02 found the solution to take care of this problem.

 

[SmokeEater2]

Wow! Reading the Op reminded me of a modernized version of The Odd Couple. I had no idea Oscar and Felix were still roomies.

 

[Scoot_4_20]

I say don't sweat the small stuff. If you can't afford to live alone, quit looking for ways to nit pick. There are much worse wasteful people than he is. Run your ideas by him one time. If he doesn't pick up on them, tell him you can't stand it and you're going to move out or ask him to leave if he doesn't live up to your expectations. You might talk your way out of a decent room mate.

 

[buickman50401]

Originally Posted By: Popinski

I'm done. Humans are idiots. And the wrong people are having kids.

Well, I'll agree with you on that point. Well educated individuals with stable incomes (or at least as stable as possible in this economy) are having less and less children and its been that way for at least the last decade if not longer.

Meanwhile the high school dropouts and recent immigrants with limited skillsets, pretty much nonexistent education, and the lack of means to barely support themselves much less several children are popping out kids like rabbits.

 

[Popinski]

Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
You know that thing you never, ever do?

Not that one, the other one.

Yeah, drinking liquor. Do it. You and your roommate need to split a bottle of Jack Daniels (the liter, not the chintzy .750) shot for shot and get hammered drunk. Really drunk, like the kind of drunk where you get the urge to light stuff on fire for no reason and fight because the other guy looked at you the wrong way or implied something through his tone of voice.

When you wake up either one of you will be dead or you'll be friends for life. It really works.


You're a good man, Greenaccord02.

 

[Popinski]

Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Originally Posted By: Popinski

I'm done. Humans are idiots. And the wrong people are having kids.

Well, I'll agree with you on that point. Well educated individuals with stable incomes (or at least as stable as possible in this economy) are having less and less children and its been that way for at least the last decade if not longer.

Meanwhile the high school dropouts and recent immigrants with limited skillsets, pretty much nonexistent education, and the lack of means to barely support themselves much less several children are popping out kids like rabbits.


I went to my high school reunion and majority of the losers and GED people had 3+ more kids. Majority of them had kids in gangs. The majority with good careers had 2 or less kids.

 

[jcwit]

Well the OP is entitled to his opinion, such as it is, I guess.

So we are only supposed to have 2 or less children? Maybe we can take other lessons from china as well.

That will work well with the pollution they create.

 

[jcwit]

Originally Posted By: Popinski
I'm done. Humans are idiots. And the wrong people are having kids.


Yup, you got that right, we're all idiots, just remember you also are part of this same species.

 

[urchin]

Originally Posted By: Popinski
Now I know why Americans are stereotypically viewed as lazy and wasters of resources. There's too many like my roommate and people on this forum who were not brought up to do basic responsibilities, common sense.

Throw litter out the window when there's a wastebasket 10 feet away......not turning things off when not in use.......go for it..

I'm done. Humans are idiots. And the wrong people are having kids.


Don't let others try and sway you from your outlook or perception of your roomate.

You are right! Today consideration for others and common sense are lost arts!

I am sure this room mate KNOWS darn well that what he does annoys you and is inconsiderate, BUT HE DOESN'T GIVE A ----!

The worst part is that it would take him no effort at all to make the little changes that would keep the two of you in a decent arrangement otherwise.

I think of the movie "Network" and what Howard Beale (Peter Finch) speaks of about how "the tube" has become our reality.

I highly recommend this movie, it is still very timely right now even though it is 35 years old!!!!