Tire plugs, who uses them?

but tyre shops tell me its a temporary fix and to get it to a permanent fix they need to take the tyre off the rim and patch it from inside.

Now are these tyre shops talking from experience or from loss of business?
Examine both methods.

The inside patch costs more to install. And it can create an unbalanced condition unless the shop charges you for, and does, a proper rebalance after the inside patch has been installed.

The inside patch will not hold air any better than the properly installed plug will. (Zero leaks). And at the same time does not require the wheel to be removed from the car, and the tire to be removed from the rim. Nor is any rebalancing required after it is installed.

You make the call.
 
I've use plugs and as long as they hold air I forget them afterwards. Even go road racing with them doing the 10/10s..
 
I stopped after our tires were purchased at Costco. Since they patch and rebalance free. But I used to plug tires sure, even a RFT and near the sidewall.

I found that if the plug is on the outer edge where a shop would not plug, it worked on the rear but leaked on the front. I figured it related to turning.
 
but tyre shops tell me its a temporary fix and to get it to a permanent fix they need to take the tyre off the rim and patch it from inside.

Now are these tyre shops talking from experience or from loss of business?
They're coming at it from a point of liability.

Their insurers may have told them that they wouldn't cover a loss related to a tire plug they've done.

or

Tire manufacturers could have scared them over time that a patch/plug is the only way to go.

At the end of the day, there are millions of tires running around out there on plugs that never fail, but I'll acknowledge that the patch/plug may well be a more secure way to do it if you want to invest the time and money in it. There is almost no way one could work out. How much better? Dunno.
 
Is there a way to remove and remount tyres at home without special tools? Balance will be a problem since you need special machines for that
 
Shop used one today on FIL "loaner" Jeep Cherokee. No spare tire in the loaner. They ordered a new tire, will have it tomorrow. On left rear inside edge. At least he can go local for his doctor appointments.

This is the 2nd tire he had to put in it now. First one he hit the Belgian blocks nd ripped the sidewall. He had that flat bedded to Jeep thinking they would fix it since it's a loaner. They charged him $300. Local independent shop I go to $210 OTD for the same tire. Conti Procontact TX. By the way, they are NOT very good in wet heavy snow IMO. I'm spoiled by full winters in the rest of the cars.

His Renegade is still at Jeep waiting for a motor under warranty, 2 weeks will make 8 months he has had the loaner.
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Is there a way to remove and remount tyres at home without special tools? Balance will be a problem since you need special machines for that
Harbor Freight sells a manual tire changer and a bubble balancer. You can find wheel weights online. Eat your Wheaties! I plug everything. Dozen's over the years. I have had a couple that still had tiny leaks, I went to the tire shop and had these repaired with a patch. They mark the tire/rim location and don't rebalance in my experience.
 
They're coming at it from a point of liability.

Their insurers may have told them that they wouldn't cover a loss related to a tire plug they've done.

or

Tire manufacturers could have scared them over time that a patch/plug is the only way to go.

At the end of the day, there are millions of tires running around out there on plugs that never fail, but I'll acknowledge that the patch/plug may well be a more secure way to do it if you want to invest the time and money in it. There is almost no way one could work out. How much better? Dunno.
In my last 20 years all my tires come with free repair and balancing. No need to do it myself. And they've all done a patch and plug and rebalanced when needed.
 
Tire plug is still fine, as I posted in post #16.

However, I got 2 more nails but in the LR tire. So glad I didn’t buy a new tire each time this happens. I would have let Discount Tire do this one, as the leaky nail was in the center. But it also had a tiny nail on the shoulder that didn’t leak and I was worried Discount would turn me down. Oh well, it’s been 2 weeks and probably 700 miles at least.

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All below is only my opinion.


Tire plugs existed long before internal combo patch/plugs (like Tech Uniseal) ever did.

Obviously the new patch/plug combo is more likely to NEVER leak than just a plug, a plug is more convenient than driving to a tire shop and waiting half a day; it is not the $25 and yes many shops like Discount Tire repair tires for FREE. Some shops exclude about half the treed on top as NOT repairable like 1.5" away from the edge... Seems excessive!

DOT from what I can find does NOT prohibit tire plugging. They really do not get into how repairs are carried out and defer to industry. Some tire manufacturers have gone so far as to say 0 repairs are acceptable of any kind.

Let's look at it as a tire shop:
  • Tire shops have an interest in selling tires vs working 20 to 30 minutes for $25 (or FREE)
  • Tire shops have a TON of liability ... If you or I ran a shop, we would use an industry approved methods only, too.

Are tire plugs dangerous:
  • People are dangerous driving all sorts of vehicles that should not be on the road.
  • Tires that are dry-rotted, well beyond their DOT age (i.e. plenty of 10+ year old tires on the road), with slipped belts, out of round, with sidewall bubbles, checkered, chunks missing from the sidewall from curbing the vehicle, ran very low, worn down below the wear bars or into the belts... are all examples of:
    • Some tires simply MUST be replaced regardless of if they hold air, and the biggest problem with DIY tire repairs is that some people just keep plugging holes anywhere in any tire and keep driving on the same roads we do with total disregard for safety.
  • Should never repair a hole bigger tan 1/4" or 3/16" depending on which literature you read.
Why shops remove the tire:
  • #1 reason is to look inside and see if someone ran it flat or very low causing it to internally turn to chunky bits while looking good on the outside!
  • Yes, once a tire is removed, only a fool would use a plug vs a proper plug/patch

Are plugs unsafe?
  • Well they can never fix an unserviceable tire. Never do a sidewall or crown repair.
  • Plugs can NEVER safely repair an area that a proper internal plug/patch could not! (doesn't stop some people)
  • Where can a patch/plug or plug repair in reality? A: They are the size of a nickel or quarter with a plug centered. They have to be able to sit flat, so no crown repair, but probably about 1/2" to 1" from the side-wall is probably the real minimum to make the patch internally sit flat. Depends on the tire! A plug should certainly NEVER be used to get closer to the sidewall than an internal plug/patch.
  • Rumor: Plugs cause structural weakness or rust to get inside the belts.
    • A: An internal Patch/Plug is unlikely to seal the channel/hole doing any better keeping moisture out though it might be better at keeping air in!
    • A: An internal repair with some thin rubber the size of a nickel or quarter cemented in (after buffing away rubber) is not likely to make the tire stronger than just a plug.
  • A tire plug is softer and VASTLY safer than a screw or nail being left in a tire!
  • A failed tire plug will most likely slowly leak air, which if someone drives on an underinflated tire is very dangerous!
    • Partially mitigated by TPMS
  • Some tire plugs like Safety Seal are made in the USA, and I cannot find anywhere they say it is a temporary repair. Others like Slime make it abundantly clear it is a temporary repair.

In short, do what you want. I personally am going to plug (and then monitor) safe tires especially for a few days after plugging. Anyone's life is worth more than a tire, so if you do decide to plug like I do, exercise good judgement.

P.S. Project Farm on Youtube did some testing and put as many as 100 plugs in a tire and it held fine to a LOT Of abuse. Yes, the tire would obviously be compromised, but it gives me hope how durable a good plug job can be.
 
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