Time for mandatory inspections through the US?

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I am totally on board with this. After seeing many, many cars that were just unsafe to be on the road, it sickens me to see how many people risk their lives and the lives of other people because they don't have their car serviced regularly.

They have talked about getting rid of smog checks (for obdII cars) and just do a diagnostic check. I think it is time for this since the systems work well these days.

Also, the customer should have the option to do his own repairs and have it reinspected. I am totally against holding the customer hostage. Also, I don't care if their windows roll up or not. Non-safety related things like this don't affect whether the brakes work or not.

I have seen cars be brought in to have the radio fixed but have bald tires, metal to metal brakes, and two car seats in the back. And the customer still wanted to spend his money on the radio. And this was on a late-model Mercedes ML!
 
TO:OVERK1LL. i DONOT need the government in my life. i have been taking care of my cars from 1965. and i have not caused ANY trouble cause of my maintenance. when you learn that the government is more harm than help, then you are getting wisdom.
 
Originally Posted By: morris
TO:OVERK1LL. i DONOT need the government in my life. i have been taking care of my cars from 1965. and i have not caused ANY trouble cause of my maintenance. when you learn that the government is more harm than help, then you are getting wisdom.


It isn't you I'm worried about. It is the people who'd rather buy a new phone than put brakes on their car.

Those are the people that a program like this is helpful for keeping in-line.
 
In before this thread gets locked up. It seems to have run its course.

I've said my piece on this, others have said theirs, and we're all driving on the same roads at the end of the day.
 
I got to say, this is one of the few threads in my time here at BITOG, that I had to unsubscribe from because my e-mail was getting inundated with such drivel sword fighting by supposedly grown adults.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
In before this thread gets locked up. It seems to have run its course.

I've said my piece on this, others have said theirs, and we're all driving on the same roads at the end of the day.



Eh, regardless on how people see it being Gov't "controlled", the bottom line is still personal safety, both yours and mine.

Just something as simple as stopping at a red light. We all have to stop, whether we want to or not. Those who go through...well, you get the point....
 
It's not intrusive here at all...

Pick your mechanic, ask him to do a "Pink Slip" annual safety inspection. They check the lights, blinkers, front end components, tyres (cracking not an issue, presence and tread depth), then brake and e-brake function (actual function, g-forces and pulling measured and recorded, wipers, washers, and no major oil leaks. Rust is either in or out depending one whether it's structure or panels. No sceen defects in driver's field of view.

Pay $36.

If it fails, fix it (no-one checks how or where, just that it's fixed). If you think the inspection was unfair, take your next $36 to another mechanic.

I was present when a guy came in in a Mitsubishi L200 people mover one day, and said the the guy I've been using for 20 years "Go easy on her, this one's only used by the Mrs to get the kids to school"

IT's those attitudes, and the maintenance practices that go with them that create the need for the inspections.

"Blue slip", getting a car registered that has been unregistered for more than 3 months is a nightmare, and that point is where door locks, boot locks, upholstery and a whole other raft of checking takes place.
 
As others have said, no to a FEDERAL requirement. If your state wants to do it, go for it.

Yes to enforcement of standards regardless how it is done AT THE STATE LEVEL. Inspections, traffic stops, noting cars in a car-park that may not meet standards.
 
Can a mechanic hold a car in his shop if he finds an unsafe situation, such as metal-on-metal brakes, even if it came in for an unrelated repair?
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Can a mechanic hold a car in his shop if he finds an unsafe situation, such as metal-on-metal brakes, even if it came in for an unrelated repair?


Out here we can. We can't physically stop them from taking it which means we can't lock it inside or behind a gate or hold the keys, but we're allowed to disable the vehicle. We can also block it with another vehicle for a "reasonable" amount of time. This means that we can easily keep it from leaving long enough to get police on-site to order a tow.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
It's not intrusive here at all...

Pick your mechanic, ask him to do a "Pink Slip" annual safety inspection. They check the lights, blinkers, front end components, tyres (cracking not an issue, presence and tread depth), then brake and e-brake function (actual function, g-forces and pulling measured and recorded, wipers, washers, and no major oil leaks. Rust is either in or out depending one whether it's structure or panels. No sceen defects in driver's field of view.

Pay $36.


You forgot: the shop has to invest over $60,000 (that's not a typo) in a big emission machine, then pay the state every month (I think about $200, plus a dedicated broadband Internet line) to actually USE it. End result: when this idiocy came around, the number of inspection stations dropped by about half, the price quadrupled, and crooks had a field day! I havew HAD cars held hostage for a shakedown. I have WATCHED a palmed razor swipe a brake line. It is a corrupt joke.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: Shannow
It's not intrusive here at all...

Pick your mechanic, ask him to do a "Pink Slip" annual safety inspection. They check the lights, blinkers, front end components, tyres (cracking not an issue, presence and tread depth), then brake and e-brake function (actual function, g-forces and pulling measured and recorded, wipers, washers, and no major oil leaks. Rust is either in or out depending one whether it's structure or panels. No sceen defects in driver's field of view.

Pay $36.


You forgot: the shop has to invest over $60,000 (that's not a typo) in a big emission machine, then pay the state every month (I think about $200, plus a dedicated broadband Internet line) to actually USE it. End result: when this idiocy came around, the number of inspection stations dropped by about half, the price quadrupled, and crooks had a field day! I havew HAD cars held hostage for a shakedown. I have WATCHED a palmed razor swipe a brake line. It is a corrupt joke.


With that logic you could argue against almost anything as there is corruption in all elements of society not just vehicle inspections.

Also it is a further example of regulators failing to regulate. If your state has rules with respect to allowing who is licenced to perform certain types of work, those regulators have a responsibility to find corruption within the system.

Yes more regulation costs more and that sucks but its an illusion that safety and consumer protection come without cost.
 
I didn't "forget" the $60k emissions machine, as it's not there, nor the dedicated broadband, as those that don't have their own internet connection can issue the slip on paper.

Your corruption/vandalism examples are more a reflection on your society than any sort of reasonable argument against inspections.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Your corruption/vandalism examples are more a reflection on your society than any sort of reasonable argument against inspections.

I beleive this example would follow just as well on the 'Island as it would here...
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle

You forgot: the shop has to invest over $60,000 (that's not a typo) in a big emission machine, then pay the state every month (I think about $200, plus a dedicated broadband Internet line) to actually USE it. End result: when this idiocy came around, the number of inspection stations dropped by about half, the price quadrupled, and crooks had a field day! I havew HAD cars held hostage for a shakedown. I have WATCHED a palmed razor swipe a brake line. It is a corrupt joke.


That's just your corrupt state at work. You could make the same argument over why do lottery ticket machines have to cost $20k or why does the guy who drives the ticket paper around to convenience stores make $80k a year?

My state lets you use any OBDII scan tool that meeds SAE J1979 specs, any computer, any Alldata-like service, any rated lift, ball joint gauge, flashlight, etc. We save our corruption for the Turnpike authority.
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Originally Posted By: Tim H.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Your corruption/vandalism examples are more a reflection on your society than any sort of reasonable argument against inspections.

I beleive this example would follow just as well on the 'Island as it would here...

+1
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
If you are on your own private road, then fine.

When you share a public road with me and my family, then I am entitled to know that there's a more than fair chance that you at least meet some standard of roadworthiness

Governments issue drivers licenses and yet there are still crashes and fatalities.
 
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Fewer than 20 states now require safety inspections, down from a peak of about 31. The federal government lost its leverage to impose safety inspection on the states in 1976, when Congress deleted federal authority to withhold highway construction money if a state did not have regular inspections. States began abandoning inspection programs after that.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/01/despite_other_states_moves_pen.html
I knew such an inane program had to come from a Federal mandate.

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Key points from the North Carolina report:

More than a dozen states repealed inspection programs after the federal government removed its leverage over the states by saying such programs were no longer needed to receive federal highway money.
The state of Nebraska found that the number of crashes caused by vehicle defects actually went down after the program was scrapped in 1982.
The North Carolina experience shows that the number of crashes attributable to mechanical condition equaled 1 percent of the state’s auto accidents.



To put things in perspective, 1 in 7 drivers do not comply with the mandate to have car insurance:
http://wainsurance.blogspot.com/2011/08/percentage-of-uninsured-motorists-by.html
 
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