Thoughts on Transmission BP Filters

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I’ve used the Frantz filter on Renaults and Peugeots that I’ve owned for engine oil. When my wife wrecked the Peugeot in 1985, the insurance company got the car and filter, as I never had a chance to remove it. I became interested in bypass filters some months ago, more to see what was available. I settled on the Motor Guard, as I liked the TP filters I had previously owned and didn’t see a problem with the 3k-change cycle, which I presently do for the engine oil. I was some leery of automatic transmissions, as I have always owned standard shift vehicles. I purchased my 97 Chevy Astro van with 120k miles on it. Its condition was excellent and it appeared to have had good mechanical maintenance, at least from what I was told. The previous owner said the transmission had been “power flushed” at around 100k miles. Shortly after I took ownership, the “Service Engine Soon” light came on. I took it to AutoZone who reads the ODBII codes at no cost said I had the P1870 code, which was related to the transmission. I bought a new filter; B&M drain plug and a case of Dextron III. I found an article on AstroSafari.com explaining how to do a transmission flush, which I did. The magnet in the transmission had the typical gray heavy stuff coating. I cleaned it up, flushed the 12 quarts and all seemed well. I towed a 4x8 U-Haul trailer loaded as well as the back of the van on an 800+ mile trip over the mountains down I5 into the San Jose area. The “Service Engine Soon” light came back on for a period of time. It also was a P1870 code (Lockup torque converter pressure problem). I had put on an auxiliary before the trip to San Jose.

After becoming aware of this site, I became sold on going bypass filter again. I was concerned that the filter on the AT wouldn’t have enough flow to satisfy the AT needs. Thanks to Ralph Wood and Gary Allen, I decided to install the Motor Guard. Being a van, space was tight, but it is installed.

The Motor Guard has been used for some 150+ miles. What I notice is the smoothness of the shifting. I had replaced the oil around 5k miles ago so it shouldn’t have been that dirty. I have a B&M electronic shift kit installed, which gives me 3 levels of shift changes. With the B&M turned off, it’s hard to tell by feel when gears change. When the B&M is in the next level there is a little feel as it shifts between 1-2 the other gears are very smooth compared to before the filter. When the B&M is in the firmest position, it shifts firm but not “bang” as it did before. I now feel better about using the firmest position when I’m towing my travel trailer.

It would appear that keeping the AT temperature down and the fluid clean will be the key to long lasting transmission performance. The 4L60E GM transmission was not designed for towing from what I’ve read. It seems there are some light-duty parts that won’t take the towing punishment. The 4L60E seems to have some problems with wear on the solenoids that create the pressures needed. My belief is that the junk floating around in the oil is the problem causing the sticking of the solenoids and their leaking. If the smoothness I’ve found since adding the filter is any indication, the $98 for the filter plus hose, adapters and cooler will have been a real bargain. I will have little to no need to again change and flush ATF or replace the internal filter.
 
I looked at your pictures. It's amazing the benefits I saw after installing the filter. Really has made me a believer because of the results. I'm needing to get a digital camera so I can post pictures of my installation. It's compact but works really well.

I'll be interested to read remarks from others. I just wish this forum was more lively.
 
I can't say that I noticed any difference in the way it shifts. It always felt tight. The thing I couldn't believe was the color of the filter its a dark grey. Thats proof enough to me that the thing works! There sure were a lot of those gold specs in the center tube of the TP roll. I'm glad those are no longer circulating around the transmission. My engine bay was tight too so I just zip tied the frantz over the oil fill tube against the firewall works perfect. Cut the tie, put over a pan that way there is no mess. It's funny the guys at work thought I was crazy until I showed them those pics. Our delivery driver wants one for his 2001 PSD e-450 van along with some of the other drivers.
 
Okay i nstalled the frantz ( I have a Motorgaurd on the engine) on my transmission in May of 2004 I bought the Frantz off Ebay for 35$$ ...good deal ..anyway i also bought the frantz transmission adapter from Frantz..installed it and yes i too noticed my car shifted better from 1-2 much smoother..another poster had said the same thing but i figured he was full of it...i was wrong!

As for cleaning my fluid like the posted pictures ( mykro, and Sifan ? I believe also have posted impressive pictures ) didn't do the same for me.
My transmission was replaced at 83000 miles ( an accident...allowed a bolt to fall ..left in the transmission housing during assebly...and hit the torque coverter ..shooting it through my transmission ...toast!

When the transmission was replaced i brought the shop Mobile 1 and the is all that has been in it ..also my car has a drain plug ( nissan Altima) so I drained it every 5-10000 miles ..when ever I feel like it ...right now it has been around 15-20000 miles ..with just one filter change but not a total drain , was goining to do that tomorrow and send off a sample to have analized ..should be interesting as I had it analized before the filter too.
 
opkay, just drained the fluid and changed the filter...this time it does look a bit abused ( last time it had about 4000 miles on it) will send the sample off today
 
I got a 4l60E that I would like to put a motorguard on but I'm concerned that the flow wouldn't be enough and might cause some damage. How do you know if you have enough flow? Is there anything else you can tell me so I'll quit worrying about it? Which motor guard did you put on and how did you plumb it? Also how much did your B&M kit cost? Sounds interesting.
Thanks
 
Motor Guard:
I used the return line to the transmission connecting in at the radiator upper line. I unscrewed the quick-connect and purchased a male and female barbed connector for making my loop from my radiator to my Motor Guard ATF then to my external transmission cooler then to my return line.

At this time I see no problems with the flow. I have not towed a trailer since the installation and the weather is not that warm in Oregon yet.

I would highly recommend installing as largest external transmission cooler as you can. 4L60E transmissions prefer cooler oil. I plan to install a temperature guage on the transmission output to the cooler as I want to see the hottest the transmission gets so I can adjust my driving accordingly.

B&M Electronic Shift Kit:
Part No.: BM-70380. I paid $39.95 for mine around 9 months ago at a local auto parts store. It has a three position switch: Off for stock shifting, 1 dot for somewhat firmer shifts and 2 dots for rather firm shifts. I run it at 1 dot. I prefer knowing when it shifts. I can feel it shift especially from 1-2. My van is a 97 which means it has OBDII. I connected the shift kit directly to the "White" computer on the OBDII.

What vehicle do you have with the 4L60E transmission? Does it have "Tow/Haul" mode on it? If it does, I would contact B&M to see if their BM-70380 is a valid fit. You must have RPO code of MT1 or M30.

I prefered adding the electronic version of a shift kit as I wasn't sure if I would like a firmer shift that a mechanical change would give. Having the electronic shift kit, I can change shifting with a flip of the switch!
 
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