This is why I won't buy apple

[Nick R]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18591

http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Only+Esc...rticle18428.htm

This is why I don't like buying Made in China products.... Conditions like this. This is also why I refuse to buy apple products.

 

[simple_gifts]

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Foxconn manufactures motherboards and other electronics for a variety of companies including Dell, HP, Microsoft, Nintendo, Nokia, and Sony. However the Shenzhen factory serves primarily as a manufacturing facility for Apple products big and small. It has all been the site of all the deaths thus far this year.


Are you boycotting these as well? It is tough to avoid products made there (as you know)

On a side note, HFCS production is down and it is being removed from a lot of products so the market does respond to consumer pressure.

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...881#Post1909881

Quote:

Foxconn manufactures motherboards and other electronics for a variety of companies including Dell, HP, Microsoft, Nintendo, Nokia, and Sony. However the Shenzhen factory serves primarily as a manufacturing facility for Apple products big and small. It has all been the site of all the deaths thus far this year.


Are you boycotting these as well?



Only microsoft product I own is Windows, which came on a cd made in the USA. I don't care for nintendo products these days, I liked the N64, which was made in Japan. I don't buy Dell (hatem), HP (rather build my own), don't like nokia phones, and not a huge sony fan either. Not that I boycott them, but I don't buy them.

But in this case, Apple is the one in charge of plant conditions, working hours, and wages.

 

[simple_gifts]

You should look at Perdue if you want to increase the rage factor. Perhaps they have improved.

 

[Dave Hess]

What isn't made in China ?

We need them more and more for low cost items.

 

[XS650]

Suicide rate at Foxcom is about 3 per 100,000 employees.

US suicide rate for young adults is 12 per 100,000.

Where's the problem?

 

[ThirdeYe]

Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
mentioned

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...881#Post1909881

Quote:

Foxconn manufactures motherboards and other electronics for a variety of companies including Dell, HP, Microsoft, Nintendo, Nokia, and Sony. However the Shenzhen factory serves primarily as a manufacturing facility for Apple products big and small. It has all been the site of all the deaths thus far this year.


Are you boycotting these as well?



Only microsoft product I own is Windows, which came on a cd made in the USA. I don't care for nintendo products these days, I liked the N64, which was made in Japan. I don't buy Dell (hatem), HP (rather build my own), don't like nokia phones, and not a huge sony fan either. Not that I boycott them, but I don't buy them.

But in this case, Apple is the one in charge of plant conditions, working hours, and wages.


The Nintendo 64 controller was made in China.

I love that system. I just busted out Wave Race a couple of months ago.

 

[saberz]

Seriously?

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Hon Hai Precision Industry owns the Foxconn unit that operates the plant. The company has tried many approaches to stop the suicides -- Buddhist monks, "anger rooms", even contracts asking employees to promise not to kill themselves. However, the death toll has continued to rise.



Sign this, promise to not kill yourself OK!? Idiots. How about making the work environment better, and stop being jerks.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
You should look at Perdue if you want to increase the rage factor. Perhaps they have improved.



You're right, they along with Tyson are enough to make me sick. There was a movie out a few years ago I think called "Fast Food Nation" that showed some the practices of the chicken industry. They are as bad as the beef industry in treatment of animals.

 

[saberz]

Like the KFC video where people at the KFC Chicken farms were kicking chickens, throwing them to the ground and slamming them against walls? One video is enough for me.

 

[PandaBear]

This was exactly my first reaction: stop buying anything made by Foxconn. However when I look closer, there seems to be a story behind it.

From what I understand, Foxconn has a policy of paying $100k RMB (about $12500 US or so, depends on exchange rate) to the family of the dead employee including suicide and accident. So if people think about it, and see no way out of a harsh situation (i.e. borrowed from loan shark, having family that desperately need money, etc), this relatively huge amount of money (100 months of salary) to commit suicide seems rather attractive.

Unpaid overtime, relatively harsh working environment, long work hours are not what I consider humane, but this is China and most factories from what I know are similar or worse in work conditions, and from what I heard, Foxconn salary are higher than most other factories.

Simply put, there is no way you can get US union labor kind of work environment in China or anywhere outside the Europe and US/Canada. Foxconn and Honda in China are raising the base salary 20-30% recently after this incident and the Honda factory strike. Hopefully their work condition will be improving toward the right direction. It is up to their government to see what is better for their own economy: suppressing wages to attract foreign investment, or raising salary and living standard to stimulate consumption driven growth and economy.

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: XS650
Suicide rate at Foxcom is about 3 per 100,000 employees.

US suicide rate for young adults is 12 per 100,000.

Where's the problem?


The numbers "3" and "12".