Third Stove in 4 years

[andrew_j]

Here's the range in our beach house. It's a circa 2002 DCS commercial range. I think they may have built the house around it. It's a beast. All cast iron burners. All 304 stainless steel.
It was made in California I think but long before Fisher-Paykel bought DCS and Haeir bought Fisher-Paykel...and GE appliances.
In 15 years, I replaced a broken oven hinge while putting LVP down. I was able to locate a replacement...$120 for one hinge. Doubt I'd ever find another now. Only electronics are ignition and oven light.
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We had a DCS in previous home from previous owners. It worked reliably for 6 years we had it however you could not simmer well at all on it.

 

[GSCJR]

Inexpensive and effective Samsung - has Italian burners and gas valves - whatever the blank that is worth !

Probably Bertazzoni

 

[Cropduster172]

Probably Bertazzoni

Likely Defendi. They're used by a lot of stove brands/

 

[JohnnyG]

gas range.
I think I found your problem.

 

[Cropduster172]

gas range.
I think I found your problem.

What problem?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Just took delivery and installed our third Stove since we moved into this house 4 years ago.First was the stainlessness, basic Frigidaire gas range. Sold it shortly after we moved in and replaced it with a stainless Blomberg gas range. That one worked great for 2 years and than started with some minor issues...oven would huff when getting up to temperature. Had the igniter replaced and that fixed it.
Left a burner on one night with a large pan on it. Pan was destroyed and the burner valve igniter switch on one burner was damaged. I replaced it and it worked fine. Oven temp seemed inaccurate to dial setting. Decided to just get a new stove. I urged my wife to pick a Wolf or Viking or similar and let's be done with it for good. She wanted a high powered burner and none of the Vikings or similar had them.
Settled on a Kucht 4 burner 30". 21,000, 15,000, 12,000, 9000 BTU burners with the 3 highest having a super low simmer feature. No self cleaning, no electronics other than ignition and oven temp.
It shipped with a stainless door and kick plate but they also shipped a door and kick plate of the color we picked. It seems rock solid...not Wolf or Thermador solid, but close.
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Did you consider Bluestar?

 

[John105]

Our relatives have an inductive stove but personally I prefer natural gas. I actually think from observation it takes longer to heat boiling water with gas, which is counter intuitive. But my parents had gas too so it’s all I know.

 

[RhondaHonda]

I think he’s implying that it uses gas.

Our relatives have an inductive stove but personally I prefer natural gas. I actually think from observation it takes longer to heat boiling water with gas, which is counter intuitive. But my parents had gas too so it’s all I know.

I agree. My gas range takes much longer to boil water than the smooth top (non-induction) electric in the basement kitchen.

My time isn’t that valuable and I prefer the precise heat control of the gas.

 

[2005jettatdi]

Our relatives have an inductive stove but personally I prefer natural gas. I actually think from observation it takes longer to heat boiling water with gas, which is counter intuitive. But my parents had gas too so it’s all I know.

Around here, most people prefer a gas range. We moved here from the state of Washington 13 years ago and prefer electric. Our house was built with a heat pump and natural gas for the range, water heater and dryer. Even though our range has a vented range hood over it, we changed those to electric and disconnected the natural gas. With solar it works quite well for us. I like not having to pay the natural gas base fee for almost nothing. If we had natural gas heat it might make more sense for the half of the year you use heat.

 

[Mechanician]

It's a shame you can't park your stove in the drive, for the neighbors to see.

 

[oldcodger]

Better keep the gas appliances if you like them. Feds are out to ban them. We like ours and plan to keep them as long as possible.

 

[Cropduster172]

Did you consider Bluestar?

We did. Don't believe they offered the higher BTU burners my wife wanted.

 

[Cropduster172]

gas range.
I think I found your problem.

Yeah... induction and electric...so great not one decent restaurant uses either, nor do you ever see them on any cooking shows.
Fairytale cooking...but enjoy.

 

[oilcandave]

I probably get 3 gas stoves to repair per year for the last 40 years. The last 5 years or so the stoves ive been called to fix have riveted gas cooktop valves that I cant repack along with fixed orifice spuds that are non-adjustable. Used to be a tapered pin that an outer sleeve
screws down over it that can be adjusted. Pressure regulators with sealed caps that have to be swamped out for propane...and again fixed spuds that have to be swapped out for propane.

 

[gman2304]

Wife is no chef but she sure knows how to cook. She is on her second stove in 30 years.

 

[Lubener]

Go to a used appliance store and buy and "old school" stove and it will last for decades.

 

[Cropduster172]

It's a shame you can't park your stove in the drive, for the neighbors to see.

I know. But I'll be selling pictures of it and signing them. $11.50 each.
How many do you want?

 

[blkwtr]

We had a DCS in previous home from previous owners. It worked reliably for 6 years we had it however you could not simmer well at all on it.

This DCS was I stalled in 2004 so it's now 20 years old. So far, it works great. The two stage burners allow for super low temperature simmering. It can melt butter and chocolate on a paper plate.

 

[Cropduster172]

This DCS was I stalled in 2004 so it's now 20 years old. So far, it works great. The two stage burners allow for super low temperature simmering. It can melt butter and chocolate on a paper plate.

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That is a beast of a range.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Yeah... induction and electric...so great not one decent restaurant uses either, nor do you ever see them on any cooking shows.
Fairytale cooking...but enjoy.

I think it comes down to the pans and pots chefs and line cooks want and need to use, plus the cleanup required in a pro kitchen.

Induction cooktop may be good for homes with children, and I would certainly prefer one over a glass IR cooktop. Pain and expense would be that you will be required to buy - and are limited to - high iron content steel alloy pots and pans for the induction to work.

I'll stick with gas for now.

p.s: Anyone reading here with gas - if you have a low or simmer problem with the small BTU burners, any quality gas valve should have a screw adjustment inside the burner knob shaft - similar to a mixture screw on a carburetor. Light and turn burner to low, remove knob then turn the adjustment screw inside the hollow shaft to obtain your 1/4" flame - or whatever small flame will stay lit with you gently waving a magazine three feet away to create a typical breeze.

enjoy