The next progression. Min Vs Syn.

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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......
 
I don't think we've ever had Rotella, it's always been called Rimula AFAIK......
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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......



and i'd be really curious how it stacks up $$ wise against Delvac 1, which appears to be the cheapest full syn oil available in Oz, period.
 
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I don't think we've ever had Rotella, it's always been called Rimula AFAIK......
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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......



and i'd be really curious how it stacks up $$ wise against Delvac 1, which appears to be the cheapest full syn oil available in Oz, period.




It has been rimula for as long as I can remember too, I wasn't saying it was ever called rotella, just that it may be rotella under a different name for a different market.

Rick, you buy delvac in 20L drums for about $200?

As far as full synthetics go you might find our GC equivalent here in some workshops. I think it is a workshop only oil not sold on shelves called softec or longtec or some other 'tec' name. Perhaps some stealership might find it in their heart to sell u some cheap.
 
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I don't think we've ever had Rotella, it's always been called Rimula AFAIK......
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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......



and i'd be really curious how it stacks up $$ wise against Delvac 1, which appears to be the cheapest full syn oil available in Oz, period.




Really? Delvac 1 is the less expensive than Shell Rimula ultra XT?
 
No you can't conclude anything from one UOA but if I could find that article, it talked about the benefits they found with Rotella due to additional ZDDP not found in SM oils. The Sequence IIIG test should prove the SM oils to be fine for pig iron flat tappet engines, but some have said otherwise. The article I was referring too was from a big after market engine builder.

Regardless, with Rotella's price, it's a better bargain that will protect one of these engines as good or better than the $9qt Amsoil SM 0w-30. I don't think Pablo would disagree. Amsoil should rename it to SalesMan Oil 2000 0w-30. LOL.
 
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By the way, Sarge's engine is a built LS1 with a rollerized valvetrain, distributorless ignition, crank driven g-rotor oil pump...ZDDP depletion is the least of his worries.
 
Pablo you've been right all along with the S2k.
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It's probably the best extended drain oil on the market and would be ok for racing in a modern engine. But for some engines like 427 mentioned, probably not although the Sequence IIIG does account for those engine types as well.....I really don't have the qualificatoins/experience to say either way so I'll shut up now. "K bye" - N. Dynamite
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I think the Seq. IIIG if it has any weakness at all (not saying it does), may be in the very areas that highly additized HDEO's shine - that is low end wear. No I'm NOT saying SM oils have difficulties in this area........
 
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I think the Seq. IIIG if it has any weakness at all (not saying it does), may be in the very areas that highly additized HDEO's shine - that is low end wear. No I'm NOT saying SM oils have difficulties in this area........



Well...since the Sequence IIIG doesn't have any limits relative to lower end wear, it's a reasonable statement. However the Sequence VIII does address this very issue. And lower end wear would most likely be more influenced by KV, HTHS and their stability as opposed to the add pack, unless we're considering a diesel engine where corrosion may be an equally important issue.
 
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I don't think we've ever had Rotella, it's always been called Rimula AFAIK......
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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......



and i'd be really curious how it stacks up $$ wise against Delvac 1, which appears to be the cheapest full syn oil available in Oz, period.




Really? Delvac 1 is the less expensive than Shell Rimula ultra XT?




yep, more than 50% cheaper !
Priced some up today. Minimum buy quantity 208 litres, price Au$2957.74 !!!!
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D1 costs me Au$200/20l or $52/5l
 
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I don't think we've ever had Rotella, it's always been called Rimula AFAIK......
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Francis, this oil is just easy to find but by no means would it be equivalent to rotella. I beleive we have rotella here, just under a different name; Shell Rimula ultra XT. According to shell it is a 5w-40 'synthetic' supreme performance, XHVI technology blah. blah......



and i'd be really curious how it stacks up $$ wise against Delvac 1, which appears to be the cheapest full syn oil available in Oz, period.




Really? Delvac 1 is the less expensive than Shell Rimula ultra XT?




yep, more than 50% cheaper !
Priced some up today. Minimum buy quantity 208 litres, price Au$2957.74 !!!!
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D1 costs me Au$200/20l or $52/5l




Holy potatoes!, that is just disgusting, I cant imagine rimula XT gaining much market share at that price.

Just as a side, everyone here raves about rotella (rimula XT?) and the good basestock and how it is the same as their fake syn; helix 5w-40. If it is, I sure wouldn't let it near my WRX. Both my brother and I tried it and same result; engine was noisy as he1l. I hear talk here about how the acoustic properties of an oil mean squat but its hard to get over. I'm not talking perceived noise, placebo effect or whatever. Real, honest to goodness CLACK CLACK CLACK, my car has flat tappet lifters but it sounded like they were tired, stuck, hydraulic lifters, a problem I've not had with any other oil.
 
ooops, forgot to add 10% GST to the $2957.74 = Au$3253.51 for 208l, which = $15.64/l vs 10/l for D1.
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I don't think anyone will be changing from D1 anytime soon, Shell......
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I have always thought the Caltex Delo 400 looks like it would be a great oil. Any thoughts on that one?
 
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I have always thought the Caltex Delo 400 looks like it would be a great oil. Any thoughts on that one?




(Caltex?) Chevron Delo 400 15W-40 CI-4+ DHD-1. It is a 50,000 mi (80,000 km) oil in a 500,000 mi (800,000 km) 3406E CAT.
I have a UOA on here showing 8.3 TBN and 2.8 TAN at 24,000 mi (40,000 km).

We ran Delo for Yearly 6,000-10,000 mi (10,000-16,000 km) changes in a Ford 300 I-6 Carb. This engine has a gear driven cam that makes a good oil shredder. We have since switched to Rotella T 5W-40 (Group III) as it now sees 9,000-12,000 mi year (15,000-20,000 km) a year. This vehicle has never had a UOA but its clean inside and currently has 185,000 mi (300,000 km) and uses no more oil than it did at 50,000 mi (80,000 km). 1 QT (1.1 L) every 6,000 mi (10,000 km).
 
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