Well, -40 C is the same as -40 F, so take your pick.
When we hit those temperatures, the crime rate drops off a cliff. We have been fortunate this year, though. The coldest we got was something like -26 C.
The Healthy Long Winter Warm-Up
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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
LOL, yeah right. Some of us don't live in the city, you know. Perfectly safe to leave my vehicle unlocked here.
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
LOL, yeah right. Some of us don't live in the city, you know. Perfectly safe to leave my vehicle unlocked here.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Well, given how brutal your winters are, Merk, use an automatic starter, activating it right before you start putting on your snowsuit. By the time you get yourself all bundled up for your horrific Arctic conditions, your engine should be at operating temperatures.
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
Well, given how brutal your winters are, Merk, use an automatic starter, activating it right before you start putting on your snowsuit. By the time you get yourself all bundled up for your horrific Arctic conditions, your engine should be at operating temperatures.
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
I'm lucky to see the kind of temps Merkava talks about once or twice a year, usually in Jan. or Feb. When I bought the Regal two years ago, we were having a "really cold spell" for Da Swamp, with overnight lows around 25 F. ("Really cold" is the opinion of the Swamp dwellers who've never lived anywhere else.)
I start the Regal, let it idle while I put on my belt and turn on the radio, wait until the tach needle drops below 1000, and go. If it's below freezing, I give it another 30 seconds.
Merkava, I seem to recall my Park Avenue with the 3800 had its thermostat go bad at one point -- I was seeing 165 F. after 10 miles or so on my morning commute. When I had the thermostat changed, the temp readout settled at 198-201 F., and stayed there.
I start the Regal, let it idle while I put on my belt and turn on the radio, wait until the tach needle drops below 1000, and go. If it's below freezing, I give it another 30 seconds.
Merkava, I seem to recall my Park Avenue with the 3800 had its thermostat go bad at one point -- I was seeing 165 F. after 10 miles or so on my morning commute. When I had the thermostat changed, the temp readout settled at 198-201 F., and stayed there.
This new thermostat deal is aweseome! 8F this morning. Let the car run for 5 minutes and I had heat by the time I hit the interstate!
Was in inferno by the time I got to work!
In previous years, I would just start getting luke warm heat by the time I got to work - with the grilles completely taped off.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Okay, when it's -40 outside, do you volunteer to sit in my vehicle and watch it for me? I am going to warm it up, and I'm not going to sit in it. If someone wants to break into it and steal it, go right ahead.
Here, there aren't spikes in car thefts in the cold, aside from people who leave them unlocked when they do this. In -40, people aren't wandering around outside in the hopes of going for a joyride, or searching for a vehicle to chop.
I just lock my car with the key in it running. I don't imagine anyone is going to break in to the car and drive it with no window when it's cold and ... no one knows how to drive manual transmission any more.
Was in inferno by the time I got to work!
In previous years, I would just start getting luke warm heat by the time I got to work - with the grilles completely taped off.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Okay, when it's -40 outside, do you volunteer to sit in my vehicle and watch it for me? I am going to warm it up, and I'm not going to sit in it. If someone wants to break into it and steal it, go right ahead.
Here, there aren't spikes in car thefts in the cold, aside from people who leave them unlocked when they do this. In -40, people aren't wandering around outside in the hopes of going for a joyride, or searching for a vehicle to chop.
I just lock my car with the key in it running. I don't imagine anyone is going to break in to the car and drive it with no window when it's cold and ... no one knows how to drive manual transmission any more.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Okay, when it's -40 outside, do you volunteer to sit in my vehicle and watch it for me? I am going to warm it up, and I'm not going to sit in it. If someone wants to break into it and steal it, go right ahead.
Here, there aren't spikes in car thefts in the cold, aside from people who leave them unlocked when they do this. In -40, people aren't wandering around outside in the hopes of going for a joyride, or searching for a vehicle to chop.
"Hello, I'm qwerty1234 withNBC's BITOG's 'How to Catch a Predator Vehicle Thief', care to explain what you're doing here?"
"Ohh I uhhh, I was just gonna like... turn off this car here because y'know, it's a waste of gas."
"Riiight. You see, I doubt that, since you turned the radio station to a rap one when it originally was playing country."
XD I kid I kid.
~ Triton
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Okay, when it's -40 outside, do you volunteer to sit in my vehicle and watch it for me? I am going to warm it up, and I'm not going to sit in it. If someone wants to break into it and steal it, go right ahead.
Here, there aren't spikes in car thefts in the cold, aside from people who leave them unlocked when they do this. In -40, people aren't wandering around outside in the hopes of going for a joyride, or searching for a vehicle to chop.
"Hello, I'm qwerty1234 with
"Ohh I uhhh, I was just gonna like... turn off this car here because y'know, it's a waste of gas."
"Riiight. You see, I doubt that, since you turned the radio station to a rap one when it originally was playing country."
XD I kid I kid.
~ Triton
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Garak
Well, given how brutal your winters are, Merk, use an automatic starter, activating it right before you start putting on your snowsuit. By the time you get yourself all bundled up for your horrific Arctic conditions, your engine should be at operating temperatures.
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
Yeah at least eight hours before the next start...
I hooked the scanner to my beater F150 today, it's a little lazy about dropping idle but was approx normal after 50 seconds... At that time engine temp was 66*F, up from 45*F which was first reading that occurred approx 20 seconds after starting(takes a few seconds to get scanner into live data mode)... Ambient was 37* and it had been setting since Sat...
At two minutes engine temp was 93*, three 111*, at four it was at 125*F... So in spite of what's regularly reported here on BITOG, engines will warm up just idling(which I've never had a doubt)...
It idled for 13 min, 5 seconds before T-stat opened at a reported 206*...
Originally Posted By: Garak
Well, given how brutal your winters are, Merk, use an automatic starter, activating it right before you start putting on your snowsuit. By the time you get yourself all bundled up for your horrific Arctic conditions, your engine should be at operating temperatures.
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
Yeah at least eight hours before the next start...
I hooked the scanner to my beater F150 today, it's a little lazy about dropping idle but was approx normal after 50 seconds... At that time engine temp was 66*F, up from 45*F which was first reading that occurred approx 20 seconds after starting(takes a few seconds to get scanner into live data mode)... Ambient was 37* and it had been setting since Sat...
At two minutes engine temp was 93*, three 111*, at four it was at 125*F... So in spite of what's regularly reported here on BITOG, engines will warm up just idling(which I've never had a doubt)...
It idled for 13 min, 5 seconds before T-stat opened at a reported 206*...
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
I know you were joking, but that would be a much "healthier" way to get his car up to temperature compared to idling.
I also say he has a "lazy" thermostat. It opens when it should but is too slow to close.
LOL at dropping to 165 in that frigid 47 degree air. Cover the radiator with cardboard like we do up nort' hey.
I think Merk also needs to install block and oil pan heaters. They should probably be plugged in all night as well.
I know you were joking, but that would be a much "healthier" way to get his car up to temperature compared to idling.
I also say he has a "lazy" thermostat. It opens when it should but is too slow to close.
LOL at dropping to 165 in that frigid 47 degree air. Cover the radiator with cardboard like we do up nort' hey.
Originally Posted By: TFB1
So in spite of what's regularly reported here on BITOG, engines will warm up just idling(which I've never had a doubt)...
I've never said that they won't warm up, it's a less efficient way of doing it...light load is better.
My Nissan diesel will take forever to warm at idle, as it's coolant is inlet temperature controlled, not outlet.
Outlet thermostats are devices for supplying constant temperature water to the radiator rather than controlling actual engine temperatures.
So in spite of what's regularly reported here on BITOG, engines will warm up just idling(which I've never had a doubt)...
I've never said that they won't warm up, it's a less efficient way of doing it...light load is better.
My Nissan diesel will take forever to warm at idle, as it's coolant is inlet temperature controlled, not outlet.
Outlet thermostats are devices for supplying constant temperature water to the radiator rather than controlling actual engine temperatures.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Cold weather in Albuquerque last week......17 cars stolen in one day. "Warming up" in front of the house.
I hope no one is starting the car to warm up and then going inside the house?? Thats a common way cars get stolen.
Cold weather in Albuquerque last week......17 cars stolen in one day. "Warming up" in front of the house.
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