The Future of Auto Shops?

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Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
Originally Posted By: teambeechstreet

$110 for an oil change and safety inspection? That's f'n ridiculous. Not surprised it's in SF.


It isn't just San Francisco. My local Acura dealer quoted me $140 yesterday to flush and replace the brake fluid (which I declined).

It can be that costly when you have to bleed the ABS module.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
Originally Posted By: teambeechstreet

$110 for an oil change and safety inspection? That's f'n ridiculous. Not surprised it's in SF.


It isn't just San Francisco. My local Acura dealer quoted me $140 yesterday to flush and replace the brake fluid (which I declined).

It can be that costly when you have to bleed the ABS module.

Does bleeding the ABS module require a different procedure than the traditional two-man bleed method?
 
Originally Posted By: semaj281
Originally Posted By: artificialist

It can be that costly when you have to bleed the ABS module.

Does bleeding the ABS module require a different procedure than the traditional two-man bleed method?

Yes, you generally need a factory-level scan tool to activate a pump and/or open valves to circulate fluid through the module. This is also sometimes needed to improve brake pedal feel.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino

My concern is preppy schools, guidance counselors etc shuffling the "dumb" kids to a trade and the smart ones to become anthropologists or whatever.


They shuffle the smart ones to get some useless degree so that they get out 4 years later and complain that they have tens of thousands in student loans and no job.
 
We have had numerous Villagers brought in on the hook because an indy shop cant get a pedal after replacing a brake hydraulic component. I have lost count of how many Hybrids come in on the hook from shops after someone unknowingly loosens a brake line or bleeder and loses all pedal feel.
 
Can you explain as to why an independent can not understand loosing a brake line or bleeder would cause loss of brake? I mean what is so different about Hybrid?
 
A lot of shops don't know how to deal with the regenerative braking systems on the hybrid vehicles. We replaced a master cylinder on a Hybrid Escape and it required a few gallons of brake fluid to bleed the system using the scan tool to activate the Hydraulic Control Unit solenoids.
 
The complexity of vehicles these days was the reason my mechanic with a small shop retired. He said he hated working on today's cars.
 
Well they're obviously targeting the professional crowd. Given how expensive it is to do business in SF, those labor rates are reasonable. $110 for an oil change isn't that much to someone who makes $135k per year. A "poor" person in SF makes $60k and would likely have their oil changed at a gas station.

I think a shop like this would appeal to female customers. A lot of women are intimidated by the typical repair shop.

But the only thing the shop is missing is a Starbucks. That would make it truly San Franciscan
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