The $119 Nespresso Machine and pod thoughts

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Flavor?
It is 6:46 Sunday morning, loving the coffee- thanks for the recommendation. I have no idea what the hotel was serving in the plastic pods, but the hotel coffee was simply nasty.

On a funny note, I am listening to my favorite internet station Serenade Radio out of the U.K and enjoying the coffee. And what happens to be playing:
Kyu Sakamoto - Sukiyaki.

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Honestly the major flaw of this design rests with the geometric shape of the pods and the injection penetration.

The way I understand it, the steam (soon to be liquid) is injected on the narrow end of the pod via three "injectors" that poke their own holes (3 total). These sharp prongs can wear, get dirty, etc. The older the machine gets the worse this condition will be, and the machine well tolerate less and less variability in the profile of that injected end. Worst case no penetration and steam/water goes around/crushes pod.

This is easily cured with a limp around: as I posted poke your own holes, 4-5 should do it. Kinda lame but the coffee is actually better!
 
Nespresso is to real espresso what Keurig is to pour over or drip in a Moccamaster.
Yes and definitely no.

Sure maybe when comparing methodology to a Moccamaster.

But tastewise, Nespresso is closer to "real" espresso than Keuring is to any drip coffee

I bet you can't tell why that might be, if you want to think it through.
 
This isn't the first long and very thoughtful coffee related thread I've read here. Absolutely interesting.
There are so many considerations.
Thanks to all who've taken the time and effort to describe their involvement. ...seriously.

GOOD:
Consistency of beverage produced (they tell me)
Selection of flavors in an office or whilst traveling
Less waste
Likely ease of operation with reduced chance of scalding/spillage (think car dealership waiting room)

BAD:
Cost per cup
Hassle of finding any particular one at any particular time (this includes finding good, gas-filled aluminum ones vs plastic)
Having to select a hotel based on which coffee machine is in your room.
Recycling -something I gladly do which many are indignantly opposed to. Plus energy used to recycle.

QUESTION:
Is the amount of water or steam adjustable? ...either S,M or L cup or variable?
I know caffein causes the bubbles in coffee but are "frothing agents" added to the grounds? Some of these brews resemble beige shaving foam.
 
Not sure about caffeine causing bubbles, I thought most comes from CO2 trapped in the roasting process.

With a Nespresso machine you have a short shot and a long shot (aka lungo)

Decent summary, good thinking points.

I shoot for under .50-.60 per pod, I drink 3 per day on average. Not a problem in my budget but could really be for others.

I always recycle my aluminum pods.

I never select my hotel rooms based on coffee machines. I do try whatever version a room may have, then also go out and get a cup.
 
Nespresso is to real espresso what Keurig is to pour over or drip in a Moccamaster.
Agreed, but not everyone wants to, for a multitude of reasons, OR, can afford the REAL espresso at home. For the record, I don't want to be dialing in my grinder while cross-checking my hygrometer, boiler temperatures and tamping force for my Gaggia at 6:30AM, before I head out the door. As a side note, some Michelin star restaurants have invested in costly espresso machines for their clients, some of which are capsule machines, not everyone aspires to be a barista.
 
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I know caffein causes the bubbles in coffee but are "frothing agents" added to the grounds? Some of these brews resemble beige shaving foam
No, the crema is a result of combining heat and the naturally present oil found in the Robusta (popular w/espresso) variety of coffee bean, while forcing water through it. How do I know this? Anytime I have espresso from a machine that is not fully warmed up or the coarseness of the grind is incorrect, the crema is lacking. Additionally, this is probably why I dislike 100 percent Arabica espresso, it lacks mouth feel, IMO. Another reason why I prefer Nespresso is consistency. Nespresso machines will not brew a cup until it reaches the optimal brewing temperature, guaranteeing a perfect cup every time.

Nespresso went even further with their Vertuoline of machines and proprietary capsules. The Vertuoline adds centrifugal force to create, which I surmise, is how it adds a foam like topper to their coffee.
 
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No, the crema is a result of combining heat and the naturally present oil found in the Robusta (popular w/espresso) variety of coffee bean, while forcing water through it. How do I know this? Anytime I have espresso from a machine that is not fully warmed up or the coarseness of the grind is incorrect, the crema is lacking. Additionally, this is probably why I dislike 100 percent Arabica espresso, it lacks mouth feel, IMO. Another reason why I prefer Nespresso is consistency. Nespresso machines will not brew a cup until it reaches the optimal brewing temperature, guaranteeing a perfect cup every time.

Nespresso went even further with their Vertuoline of machines and proprietary capsules. The Vertuoline adds centrifugal force to create, which I surmise, is how it adds a foam like topper to their coffee.
No clue what pure Arabicas you have tried, but take a quality dry process from Brazil/Yemen, roast to a full city range, let it rest 6-8 days and the extraction is insanely heavy in texture/mouthfeel. Depending on grind fineness/pressure applied of course, but I have never felt the need to pursue any robusta.
 
No clue what pure Arabicas you have tried, but take a quality dry process from Brazil/Yemen, roast to a full city range, let it rest 6-8 days and the extraction is insanely heavy in texture/mouthfeel. Depending on grind fineness/pressure applied of course, but I have never felt the need to pursue any robusta.
Agreed. Never had any problems getting great crema out of quality Arabica beans.
 
No clue what pure Arabicas you have tried, but take a quality dry process from Brazil/Yemen, roast to a full city range, let it rest 6-8 days and the extraction is insanely heavy in texture/mouthfeel. Depending on grind fineness/pressure applied of course, but I have never felt the need to pursue any robusta.
Did you make an account here just to grind my beans? I have had the most success (flavour especially), with blends; Arabica and Robusta, but YMMV. I have never found it necessary to source out 100% Arabica beans. As I mentioned before, the best shots IMO, have been blends. Did I mention I don't roast my own beans?

Take it easy bro, or do you prefer 'spro? :ROFLMAO:
 
No, the crema is a result of combining heat and the naturally present oil found in the Robusta (popular w/espresso) variety of coffee bean, while forcing water through it.
While I agree this holds the crema head so to speak, I was under the impression - since I read it here - the CO2 released (trapped during roasting) caused crema to happen in the first place.
 
While I agree this holds the crema head so to speak, I was under the impression - since I read it here - the CO2 released (trapped during roasting) caused crema to happen in the first place.
Without trying to get overly scientific I'd agree in that the CO2 being emulsified under pressure is the main reason for crema. Of course some think crema is disgusting and needs to be spooned off, stirred or whatever... for me the heavy texture/crema is what makes espresso as awesome as it can be. Honestly don't buy into oils being responsible for crema as for example use a coffee that's say 1 week post roast to see just what freshness has to bring to the table. Keep some of that same coffee sitting for say 4 weeks and watch how thinned out it becomes. Clearly more oils will likely be present, but as the CO2 fades so does the texture/crema. Great thing there is no right/wrong and just roll on with what works for your taste/expectations.
 
Did you make an account here just to grind my beans? I have had the most success (flavour especially), with blends; Arabica and Robusta, but YMMV. I have never found it necessary to source out 100% Arabica beans. As I mentioned before, the best shots IMO, have been blends. Did I mention I don't roast my own beans?

Take it easy bro, or do you prefer 'spro? :ROFLMAO:
Nope, just one of the 1st threads I spotted and find interesting. Motor oil is simple/boring compared to espresso anyway, right?!? I will agree that I've usually found some quality blends to be far better than most single origins, but have really been finding some killer SOs dry processed that are from Brazil/Yemen. Honestly never have tried roasting robusta or decaf (a.k.a. why bother), but surely both can be quite good if quality green is sourced and decent development is applied.

Guess you can call me a 'spro bro!
 
It's quite possible. The other thing to consider, is that when espresso is brewed/extracted, it's through very small pores and that causes an aeration effect in a sense, which also increases the level of crema.
 
For the record, I don't want to be dialing in my grinder while cross-checking my hygrometer, boiler temperatures and tamping force for my Gaggia at 6:30AM, before I head out the door.
Not wanting to fool with maintenance is the reason I went with the Flair 58 lever espresso press.

I have the ability to make espresso that rivals or exceeds the quality of espresso machines costing thousands of dollars, with virtually no maintenance.

I also just enjoy the process of making espresso manually.
 
I enjoy it too, when I have time. Like shaving, when I have time, I actually enjoy all the steps; hot towel, pre-shave cream, etc.

I can't wait to taste the world's best espresso; what's you address @john_pifer? (y)
 
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I enjoy it too, when I have time. Like shaving, when I have time I actually enjoy all the steps; hot towel, pre-shave cream, etc.

I can't wait to taste the world's best espresso; what's you address @john_pifer? (y)
I'd love to make you an espresso if you ever make it down to the bustling metropolis of Dickson, Tennessee, USA!

I certainly don't make it every day. On workdays, I'm out the door at 4:30 am and the wife leaves at 6:30, so I make a pot of drip coffee for us (usually set it up the night before).

But yeah, on days off, certainly do enjoy the ritual.

Cheers!
 
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