Texas sues GM for selling driving data to insurance comps

[KrisZ]

GM has been selling driving data for over a decade to insurance companies which resulted in higher premiums for the owners of GM products.

Not only that, they deceived customers into signing up for the connected services making them think not signing up will disable safety features and not disclosing the data collected will be sold.

Total scum bags and I hope they get a huge fine.

Don’t want to imbed the video as there is foul language used.

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[daves87rs]

Funny, all automakers have done it for over 20 years….

Not sure why it is a surprise now!

 

[mitsuman47]

Good. We need more states standing up for their constituents.

God bless Texas.

 

[4WD]

Funny, all automakers have done it for over 20 years….

Not sure why it is a surprise now!

Yup - It’s not new - and I don’t care - we pay for OnStar and have no issues with who can see our driving data. We hardly see the DPS out slowing down these NASCAR pro’s in a 2500 diesel. DPS are preoccupied with things we don’t talk about here …
Unsafe drivers sharing public roads need to pay more one way or another

 

[Nick1994]

I guess it’s a good thing for me Genesis used 3G still in 2018

 

[Falcon_LS]

Disgusting how they'll do anything for money. Hopefully they'll get a good dose of foxtrot around and find out.

 

[Rmay635703]

They should add lexisnexus and liberty along with the other entities as co defendants because they were all willfully ignorant and responsible for irrefutable damage to customers who now have ruined lives that will forever pay extremely elevated insurance forever due to illegal data stealing.

 

[Bjornviken]

Funny, all automakers have done it for over 20 years….

Not sure why it is a surprise now!

20 years? good luck with that in my hilux using odb1

 

[Skippy722]

Good.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Unsafe drivers sharing public roads need to pay more one way or another

Speed alone doesn’t hurt anybody. When it does and innocent bystanders are harmed, then an actual crime has been committed. There’s plenty of ways to deal with that.

Turning a blind eye to the loss of freedom from ever-present surveillance doesn’t hurt you one bit, until something you’ve done makes you their target. I seem to recall Bonhoeffer said something memorable about the callous lack of concern over the loss of other peoples’ rights… and don’t kid yourself that it’s not the same animal, because it is. The only difference is the speed at which the temperature in the pot is increased. You won’t even feel it coming until your lobster is cooked.

 

[Jetronic]

Yup - It’s not new - and I don’t care - we pay for OnStar and have no issues with who can see our driving data. We hardly see the DPS out slowing down these NASCAR pro’s in a 2500 diesel. DPS are preoccupied with things we don’t talk about here …
Unsafe drivers sharing public roads need to pay more one way or another

Are only the unsafe drivers charged more, or all GM drivers of certain models? What if you buy a used car, from someone who drove unsafe, does that affect your premium now?

 

[ProbeGT]

Funny, all automakers have done it for over 20 years….

Not sure why it is a surprise now!

So may lies and falsehoods in such a short post.

1. Not funny at all, this is a serious breach of privacy and trust. Also it is theft.
2. No, very few automakers with GM being the worst offender by far.
3. No, not 20 years. Most cars had no wireless connectivity capable of transmitting this data 20 years ago. 10 years, as the lawsuit states.
4. No, it is not a surprise, sadly.

Kudos to the Texas DA for standing up for consumer data protection. I wish they also named all the insurance companies as defendants for knowingly trading in stolen goods.

 

[4WD]

Speed alone doesn’t hurt anybody. When it does and innocent bystanders are harmed, then an actual crime has been committed. There’s plenty of ways to deal with that.

Turning a blind eye to the loss of freedom from ever-present surveillance doesn’t hurt you one bit, until something you’ve done makes you their target. I seem to recall Bonhoeffer said something memorable about the callous lack of concern over the loss of other peoples’ rights… and don’t kid yourself that it’s not the same animal, because it is. The only difference is the speed at which the temperature in the pot is increased. You won’t even feel it coming until your lobster is cooked.

I stopped reading at your first line …

 

[4WD]

Are only the unsafe drivers charged more, or all GM drivers of certain models? What if you buy a used car, from someone who drove unsafe, does that affect your premium now?

Just drive like an adult and this wouldn’t happen …
I expected the responses I’m getting and don’t care …
I drive the speed limit and it is not a pleasure - especially where you live …

 

[4WD]

So may lies and falsehoods in such a short post.

1. Not funny at all, this is a serious breach of privacy and trust. Also it is theft.
2. No, very few automakers with GM being the worst offender by far.
3. No, not 20 years. Most cars had no wireless connectivity capable of transmitting this data 20 years ago. 10 years, as the lawsuit states.
4. No, it is not a surprise, sadly.

Kudos to the Texas DA for standing up for consumer data protection. I wish they also named all the insurance companies as defendants for knowingly trading in stolen goods.

You best stay off Google angry one …

 

[4WD]

For the GM haters:

 

[daves87rs]

So may lies and falsehoods in such a short post.

1. Not funny at all, this is a serious breach of privacy and trust. Also it is theft.
2. No, very few automakers with GM being the worst offender by far.
3. No, not 20 years. Most cars had no wireless connectivity capable of transmitting this data 20 years ago. 10 years, as the lawsuit states.
4. No, it is not a surprise, sadly.

Kudos to the Texas DA for standing up for consumer data protection. I wish they also named all the insurance companies as defendants for knowingly trading in stolen goods.

1. I did not mean the situation, more in general.
2. In using your info for profit- going to be more than them. Not defending GM.
3. This is beyond transferring data.
4. Nothing surprises me….I live by a few of them…..

I’m not defending GM by any means. It’s still wrong. But automakers are still going to sell your information when they can make a buck……..

 

[4WD]

1. I did not mean the situation, more in general.
2. In using your info for profit- going to be more than them. Not defending GM.
3. This is beyond transferring data.
4. Nothing surprises me….I live by a few of them…..

I’m not defending GM by any means. It’s still wrong. But automakers are still going to sell your information when they can make a buck……..

I just assume absolutely nothing that’s in the digital world is private … and yes it’s going to be used in ways we don’t like …
But to single out one of thousands is not my thing …
Maybe we need to sue to make the data public so one can know how a used vehicle was treated …

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

GM has been selling driving data for over a decade to insurance companies which resulted in higher premiums for the owners of GM products.

Not only that, they deceived customers into signing up for the connected services making them think not signing up will disable safety features and not disclosing the data collected will be sold.

Total scum bags and I hope they get a huge fine.

Don’t want to imbed the video as there is foul language used.

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And I suspect GM owners failed to read the fine print in their owners manual that GM was collecting data. The irony can't be lost on Texas with their darling Tesla which has been a rolling data collector connected to the internet for some time.

 

[Tdbo]

I hope Paxton tears 'em up. It will be beautiful to watch.