techs at oil change never torque down the filter

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What I hate most is when they over-torque the drain plug. I had to use a pipe wrench to get it off of my mom's car because everything else stripped it from being on so tight and even with the pipe wrench it was a battle, it has big huge teeth marks in it from the pipe wrench, heh.
 
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What I hate most is when they over-torque the drain plug. I had to use a pipe wrench to get it off of my mom's car because everything else stripped it from being on so tight and even with the pipe wrench it was a battle, it has big huge teeth marks in it from the pipe wrench, heh.




Not to mention the fact most places, including dealers, never replace the crush washer. I use my washer approx 3 times, turning it over each time which allows for more "crush" and then replace it.
 
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If my shop manager ever saw me going near a filter with a wrench, he'd break my arm with it. But that was a fair time ago. Maybe things are changing.

You know, like when you flush a toilet. Things change.
 
For someone who is so anal about what oil and filter are put on their car, why wouldn't they do it themselves? (Assuming he doesn't have a physical handicap which would allow bong use but not car maintenance)
 
Vtec I can just imagine the look on the guys face when you told him he should be using a torque wrench and wasn't properly servicing your vehicle. I bet they had a good laugh after you left. I wonder if he gets that often?
 
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This guy gives stoners a bad rep.



riiight....

Seems like every time I've had some else change the oil, they put the filter on waaaay to tight and its a cursing fest to get it off.




yeah you tell em..make him keep it real..i swear people come here to rant more then speak intelligibly sometimes. you don't know how easily someone can screw up, botch or doom a trivial act of oil + filter swap till you had it done to you and then you will persecute (and curse) the real scammers and that is where you all should spew your bottled up venom and also some of these shops that don't do quality work and then get mad when you "Watch them" haha Yeah, I'm your QA, QC and CIA on all the above, beach. But seriously, if it not the crush washer that techs forget, its also the lubing the gasket or how about our all-time favorite of OVERFILLING.. yeah, I bet you all have not got enough of all that! DIY is the best way to make sure the filter is tight and btw, I get it now..noone uses a torque wrench...sue me, I pay someone else good money to swap out my car's consumables!




I guess its another night of not being coherent again.
 
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This guy gives stoners a bad rep.



riiight....

Seems like every time I've had some else change the oil, they put the filter on waaaay to tight and its a cursing fest to get it off.




yeah you tell em..make him keep it real..i swear people come here to rant more then speak intelligibly sometimes. you don't know how easily someone can screw up, botch or doom a trivial act of oil + filter swap till you had it done to you and then you will persecute (and curse) the real scammers and that is where you all should spew your bottled up venom and also some of these shops that don't do quality work and then get mad when you "Watch them" haha Yeah, I'm your QA, QC and CIA on all the above, beach. But seriously, if it not the crush washer that techs forget, its also the lubing the gasket or how about our all-time favorite of OVERFILLING.. yeah, I bet you all have not got enough of all that! DIY is the best way to make sure the filter is tight and btw, I get it now..noone uses a torque wrench...sue me, I pay someone else good money to swap out my car's consumables!



May I suggest a read only account for this youngster for awhile?
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jdmFLYvtec: bam!, I hit the gas and my rpms are allready at 2000k and just asking to be pushed more. ofcourse for takeoffs, that's a norm as I get ready to blast some vtec.




wow this thread just made my day. i wish my car could get to 2000k rpmS. How do u stay under the speed limit? maybe i need a vtec. i thought i was okay with a 6800 rpm rev limiter. but when you hit 2 million Revolutions per MinuteS whoa!
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I work as a tech part-time at a W-M lube garage. I'm also university and college educated. Not all guys doing this are stereotypical 'gorillas'. As for 'why someone would go to one of these places', some don't have a choice, and it is better to go to one, and have an oil change done, than to not do regular oil changes. The actual chances of the job being screwed up and the car blowing up are fairly minor. Getting a little tired of the general bias against this industry and the people in it. Every business, every one, has good and bad examples of its kind.

As for procedures, we screw the filter on as tight as we can by hand - and are told repeatedly not to even think of using a wrench when installing a new filter.
 
There is a sticker on most oil filters, and under the hood of my Jeep that show you put a filter on hand tight then 3/4 of a turn after that. Have been doing it that way for 25 years and never a problem.
 
Oh me...oh my, this thread has been a hoot. When I saw 57 responces to "techs didn't torque the oil filter", I had to check it out. Thanks for the laughs on an otherwise dismal Monday. But does anyone know the torque specs for the oil fill cap? Any make or model will do.

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put a filter on hand tight then 3/4 of a turn after that.



I think you are describing screw it on lightly until the gasket contacts the base, then tighten 3/4 turn more to properly compress the gasket -- NOT 3/4 turn AFTER you've first tightened it hand tight.

Many filters have 3/4-16 threads so turning ONE FULL turn would advance it 1/16" and compress the gasket that much.
 
I suppose if you got yourself a K&N filter with the nut on the end, you could torque it down with a socket and torque wrench, but I have no idea what the torque specs are suppose to be.
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I swear, the stuff i read sometimes astonishes me.
Instead of starting a thread talking smack about someones method of working on your car, you could spend that time learning how to do a simple oil change. It's not only this thread either, i've seen a few of these threads fly by here. To all the smack talkers, Hold your tounges until you learn how to pull a skid plate.
Talking about Torque specs on an oil filter..then calling the guy a grease monkey gorilla..
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Never heard of using a torque wrench on a filter although I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't. For me I have always tightened it down by hand and the use the filter wrench to tighten it down to what I feel is right. So far I've never had any problems getting them back off so I must not be getting them too tight.
I do remember a guy that I worked with that bought a new Chevy truck and at the first oil change brought it to the shop to change the oil. Wrench or a punch through the filter only succeded in mangling the filter. Ended up taking a small chisel and hammer to the rim to break it loose. Evidently someone at the factory got a little carried away.
 
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