Today when shopping in walmart for some dexron ATF, I noticed that the label on supertech merconV claims it can be used in a wide range of other application, including mercon/Dexron III, Dexron VI and ATF4. Is this possible? As I understand, the visosity of Dexron and mercon V are quite different. And price wise, the dex VI is fairly pricy. So if this ST mercon V can replace DexVI, it is of great value.
supertech mercon V fits multiple specs
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I wouldn't say that the Supertech Mercon is compatible with ATF+4. Thats quite a different fluid then Dex/Merc.
Check out chrysler's center for quality assurance for ATF:
http://www.centerforqa.com/licensedatf4brands.html
Supertech ATF+4 is on there, but not Supertech Mercon V.
Dex 3 / Merc 3 is pretty close. I'm not up to date on Dex V / Merc V though.
Check out chrysler's center for quality assurance for ATF:
http://www.centerforqa.com/licensedatf4brands.html
Supertech ATF+4 is on there, but not Supertech Mercon V.
Dex 3 / Merc 3 is pretty close. I'm not up to date on Dex V / Merc V though.
Originally Posted By: mechjames
I wouldn't say that the Supertech Mercon is compatible with ATF+4. Thats quite a different fluid then Dex/Merc.
Check out chrysler's center for quality assurance for ATF:
http://www.centerforqa.com/licensedatf4brands.html
Supertech ATF+4 is on there, but not Supertech Mercon V.
Dex 3 / Merc 3 is pretty close. I'm not up to date on Dex V / Merc V though.
Interesting that Amsoil's product isn't on the Chrysler list, but Amsoil does claim ATF+4 compatibility on their website:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx
I wouldn't say that the Supertech Mercon is compatible with ATF+4. Thats quite a different fluid then Dex/Merc.
Check out chrysler's center for quality assurance for ATF:
http://www.centerforqa.com/licensedatf4brands.html
Supertech ATF+4 is on there, but not Supertech Mercon V.
Dex 3 / Merc 3 is pretty close. I'm not up to date on Dex V / Merc V though.
Interesting that Amsoil's product isn't on the Chrysler list, but Amsoil does claim ATF+4 compatibility on their website:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx
Chrysler's list is the ATFs that are licensed by Chrysler to exactly meet their spec.
Amsoil and many other blenders produce a near-universal ATF that comes close to the specs, is "recommended" by the blended for those applications, and does a very good job.
Amsoil and many other blenders produce a near-universal ATF that comes close to the specs, is "recommended" by the blended for those applications, and does a very good job.
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
I don't have much faith in certain generic or store brands.
I wouldn't use it to replace DexronVI or ATF+4, unless it was an emergency since any ATF is better than none.
Supertech DexronVI and ATF+4 are available, at least at some stores. If you require those, stick with the label or a 'reputable' brand.
I don't have much faith in certain generic or store brands.
I wouldn't use it to replace DexronVI or ATF+4, unless it was an emergency since any ATF is better than none.
Supertech DexronVI and ATF+4 are available, at least at some stores. If you require those, stick with the label or a 'reputable' brand.
Originally Posted By: unDummy
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
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Originally Posted By: unDummy
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
For the Jeep stick with true ATF+4. Put anything else in a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep transmission and you can kiss it goodbye.
Originally Posted By: unDummy
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
For the Jeep stick with true ATF+4. Put anything else in a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep transmission and you can kiss it goodbye.
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Originally Posted By: vulture
Originally Posted By: unDummy
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
For the Jeep stick with true ATF+4. Put anything else in a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep transmission and you can kiss it goodbye.
I agree with this recommendation
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Originally Posted By: unDummy
The Mercon-V is good for MerconV and normal dex/merc usages.
So I can use ST mercon V in all of my cars (00 buick regal and 99 jeep cherokee, both speced for Dexron III), correct?
For the Jeep stick with true ATF+4. Put anything else in a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep transmission and you can kiss it goodbye.
I agree with this recommendation
I'd have to disagree. Grand Cherokee's use a mopar transmission. The regular Cherokess used Aisin-Warner transmissions. The Aisin-Warner transmissions were used on the 6 cylinder cherokees right until the end, and require dexron III.
Quoting Allpar.com:
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There is an important exception for Jeep owners. As Danny noted, "The Jeep AW-4 (Aisin-Warner) transmission should use Dexron III." Greg, a DCX tech, wrote that the AW4/AX4 transmission was used on 6-cylinder Jeep Cherokees through the end of production, and on the first six-cylinder 1993 Grand Cherokees (built in 1992 and 1993), but on the Grand Cherokee it was phased out midway through the 1993 model year. This transmission requires Dexron, while the 42RE / A500SE which replaced the Aisin-Warner transmission midway in the 1993 model year needs ATF+4. Again, if you are confused, you may just want to try one of the new universal fluids that is both Dexron and ATF+4 compatible.
Quoting Allpar.com:
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There is an important exception for Jeep owners. As Danny noted, "The Jeep AW-4 (Aisin-Warner) transmission should use Dexron III." Greg, a DCX tech, wrote that the AW4/AX4 transmission was used on 6-cylinder Jeep Cherokees through the end of production, and on the first six-cylinder 1993 Grand Cherokees (built in 1992 and 1993), but on the Grand Cherokee it was phased out midway through the 1993 model year. This transmission requires Dexron, while the 42RE / A500SE which replaced the Aisin-Warner transmission midway in the 1993 model year needs ATF+4. Again, if you are confused, you may just want to try one of the new universal fluids that is both Dexron and ATF+4 compatible.
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Originally Posted By: mechjames
Quoting Allpar.com:
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There is an important exception for Jeep owners. As Danny noted, "The Jeep AW-4 (Aisin-Warner) transmission should use Dexron III." Greg, a DCX tech, wrote that the AW4/AX4 transmission was used on 6-cylinder Jeep Cherokees through the end of production, and on the first six-cylinder 1993 Grand Cherokees (built in 1992 and 1993), but on the Grand Cherokee it was phased out midway through the 1993 model year. This transmission requires Dexron, while the 42RE / A500SE which replaced the Aisin-Warner transmission midway in the 1993 model year needs ATF+4. Again, if you are confused, you may just want to try one of the new universal fluids that is both Dexron and ATF+4 compatible.
I'm telling you guys, Chrysler transmissions are very very picky, using anything else and you'll destroy it.
Quoting Allpar.com:
Quote:
There is an important exception for Jeep owners. As Danny noted, "The Jeep AW-4 (Aisin-Warner) transmission should use Dexron III." Greg, a DCX tech, wrote that the AW4/AX4 transmission was used on 6-cylinder Jeep Cherokees through the end of production, and on the first six-cylinder 1993 Grand Cherokees (built in 1992 and 1993), but on the Grand Cherokee it was phased out midway through the 1993 model year. This transmission requires Dexron, while the 42RE / A500SE which replaced the Aisin-Warner transmission midway in the 1993 model year needs ATF+4. Again, if you are confused, you may just want to try one of the new universal fluids that is both Dexron and ATF+4 compatible.
I'm telling you guys, Chrysler transmissions are very very picky, using anything else and you'll destroy it.
Except the cherokee with the 6 cylinder doesn't have a Chrysler Transmission. The Grand Cherokee is a Chrysler transmission, and you must only use ATF+4 in it.
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
Originally Posted By: mechjames
Except the cherokee with the 6 cylinder doesn't have a Chrysler Transmission. The Grand Cherokee is a Chrysler transmission, and you must only use ATF+4 in it.
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
So check your build sheet, glove box sticker, transmission id tag or owner's manual to know if you do and don't have a chrysler transmission.
Except the cherokee with the 6 cylinder doesn't have a Chrysler Transmission. The Grand Cherokee is a Chrysler transmission, and you must only use ATF+4 in it.
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
So check your build sheet, glove box sticker, transmission id tag or owner's manual to know if you do and don't have a chrysler transmission.
mechjames, you are right. The AW4 transmission in Cherokee is essentially a toyota unit and is speced for Dexron. I am not looking for a subsstitute for ATF+4. I am just curisous if Supertech Mercon V is a safe upgrade of plain Dex III fluid.
If you're looking for an upgrade, Dexron VI would be the best to use. Dex/Merc always used to be close up to the third spec. Once the fouth spec for both come out, it seems as they have branched out into two seperate fluids.
Check valvoline's website for example. http://www.valvoline.com/products/consum...smission-fluid/ Mercon V and Dexron VI are seperate fluids now. Previously they were both the same.
If it was me, I'd use a Dexron/Mercon labeled bottle, or Dexron IV. Maybe someone else will chime in here if they have used Supertech Mercon V in a transmission that specs Dexron III.
I just don't know how supertech can meet Both Dex/Merc 3 and prior, Merc V and Dex VI, and Atf+4 in the same blend. Unless they're getting their blend from AMSOIL lol
Yea, everything 90's and most late 80's Chrysler vehicles take ATF+4. I know that. Jeep was an AMC brand before Chrysler bought them out, and the Cherokee was essentially unchanged. That's the exception with fluids. I know two people with cherokee's myself. An 86 with a Torquefilte (spec'd for Dexron III and dexron only) and a 97 with the aisin warner, and have worked on both.
Check valvoline's website for example. http://www.valvoline.com/products/consum...smission-fluid/ Mercon V and Dexron VI are seperate fluids now. Previously they were both the same.
If it was me, I'd use a Dexron/Mercon labeled bottle, or Dexron IV. Maybe someone else will chime in here if they have used Supertech Mercon V in a transmission that specs Dexron III.
I just don't know how supertech can meet Both Dex/Merc 3 and prior, Merc V and Dex VI, and Atf+4 in the same blend. Unless they're getting their blend from AMSOIL lol
Yea, everything 90's and most late 80's Chrysler vehicles take ATF+4. I know that. Jeep was an AMC brand before Chrysler bought them out, and the Cherokee was essentially unchanged. That's the exception with fluids. I know two people with cherokee's myself. An 86 with a Torquefilte (spec'd for Dexron III and dexron only) and a 97 with the aisin warner, and have worked on both.
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