Super Tech SN

[SuperFast]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
ST is an "almost" oil. If "almost" is good enough for you, go for it.


Either it is or is not. Your statement is like "sorta pregnant".


I get what he is saying, he is saying he could buy supertech and it is likely fine, bu he can also get a different better known brand that is SN like PYB for minimal amount more so he doesnt fully see why he should get Supertech when its on the aisle next to that other oil.

as to pregnancy, i am not an eexpert on that topic.

and i have to admit.. thinking about it, putting ST on a shelf next to everything else makes it look pointless.

 

[gfh77665]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
ST is an "almost" oil. If "almost" is good enough for you, go for it.


Either it is or is not. Your statement is like "sorta pregnant".


No it isn't, you misunderstood. I am saying ST oil is "almost" Penz, Mobil, Val, etc., quality wise. Just like NAPA is "almost" Valvoline. (weaker add pack)

"Almost" is not a hard concept to understand. It does not correlate to pregnancy.

 

[daves87rs]

Never thought I would hear about someone getting pregnant in a thread.


Unless there is a particular reason why you need a "branded" oil (like a engine or OCI), pretty much any oil will do.


So ST would be just fine for 3k OCI.

 

[gfh77665]

Most folks now go longer than 3K. Just sayin'.

 

[motorguy222]

ST is rated SN.That means that it meets the same standard as PYB,Val.,Hav. and all of the others.

There have been several reports showing that ST is good oil and has a good add pack.Why pay more for advertising and fancy labels when you can get a product that meets the same standards as the others?

There are those that will buy oils that are not even certified by API and they will claim that the oil is better than any of the rest.Why is this?

If an oil that "isnt" certifed is superior,then why is one that "is" certified,junk?

 

[dparm]

There's a lot more to an oil than the API cert it does/doesn't meet.

 

[mailman74]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
I think Mobil Super 5000 for $11.50 and QSUD synthetic for $19.00 are the best day in and day out oil deals at WM . Better add packs and when averaged over the life of an OCI we're talking pennies difference .


+1

 

[SuperFast]

Originally Posted By: motorguy222
If an oil that "isnt" certifed is superior,then why is one that "is" certified,junk?



base oils and additive packs.

Thats why we have brand fights so much.

 

[motorguy222]

Originally Posted By: SuperFast
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
If an oil that "isnt" certifed is superior,then why is one that "is" certified,junk?



base oils and additive packs.

Thats why we have brand fights so much.


This may be true but most base oils come from the big guys and they have excellent products.The add pack companies also have good products.

It really comes down to people wanting a certain name and a fancy label on the oil bottle.

I have a GM car that has around 225,000 miles on it.The only major work done has been an intake gasket and it uses little if any oil.It has had quite a bit of ST in it and it runs very good.

It is clean through the oil hole and looks good.

I also have been using ST oil in a riding mower.Usually 30 weight or 15W40.When I got the mower from a guy I know,it used oil terribly.The ST has got the oil use down to a very good level.

 

[Ken2]

Quote:
ST is rated SN.That means that it meets the same standard as PYB,Val.,Hav. and all of the others.

Well...not exactly.

API’s Engine Oil Licensing and Certification System (EOLCS) is a voluntary licensing and certification program that authorizes engine oil marketers who meet specified requirements to use the API Engine Oil Quality Marks.
http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/index.cfm

This means that any oil blender who claims to use a base oil from the approved interchange chart, and buy an approved additive package, can put the API labels on their product. Each brand and grade of oil is not tested. There is very little auditing to see if every blender actually uses the correct ingredients correctly blended in their oils.

I'll stick with a top quality name, not a lowest price outfit.

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I am sure it is, but the question will remain, why buy ST when you can have Penz, Mobil, Val, etc. for just $1.00 or $1.50 more?
Little mor that a dollar more or every other dino minus QS and MS5K. Honestly, if I lived in one of the NE states that XOM provides the ST for, I would use ST in a instant. It's the same as XOM Superflo

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
I think Mobil Super 5000 for $11.50 are the best day in and day out oil deals at WM . Better add packs and when averaged over the life of an OCI we're talking pennies difference .
+ XOM!

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Originally Posted By: dsmdriver2588
Ran nothing but st dino and st filters for the first 40k miles on my vehicle. Even took st dino to a little over 10,000 mi on one oci. I change oil for my mom, uncle, and friend, and for the last two years have used nothing but st oil and st filters for them. No problems.


How do you know you have "No problems."?

What does that mean?

Did you do pre/post internal evaluations?


Oh wow, you can't be serious!!! Have you done that before and after each oil change to test your engine??

 

[gfh77665]

Originally Posted By: motorguy222
ST is rated SN.That means that it meets the same standard as PYB,Val.,Hav. and all of the others.


Yes, and a Chevy Aveo "meets the same standard" as a Cadillac CTS. It does not mean the performance is identical, though!

 

[JustinH]

I agree, the Mobil Super 5000 is going to be a good value for $1.50 more, and Quaker State is right in that range also..

Basically you can buy anything with an API sticker on it, and not worry.

I've been running peak 5w30 in a couple of ecotec motors. My girlfriends pontiac is using a little of it, about 1 quart in 3500 miles so far. It usually uses about 1/2 or 1/4 of a quart in 5k, so I might try something different next time for her car.

My saturn uses zero oil, and is fine with the peak.

 

[bustednutz]

Basically ST is a great value. So say for instance you are in WalMart and shopping for other things as well. You save $2.00 on a 5qt of ST. You save another $2.00 on your ST filter purchase. Then you go thru the store with wifey and buy other WM branded goods along with name brand goods. ie: paper towels, toilet paper, bottled water, beef, chicken, etc...in the WM brand
Those $2.00 bills really add up at the end of a shopping trip.
Not everyone is obsessing over what is perceived to be the highest quality and best name brand goods anymore. They are obsessing over saving a few bucks. I say obsess over the savings, not the name.
If my lady would let me, I'd buy 90% WM branded stuff. Yes, I'm cheap.

 

[SuperFast]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
ST is rated SN.That means that it meets the same standard as PYB,Val.,Hav. and all of the others.


Yes, and a Chevy Aveo "meets the same standard" as a Cadillac CTS. It does not mean the performance is identical, though!


A Chevy Aveo nio longer meets my standards, though i t may have at one time.

 

[Silver_civic]

Used the ST 5w20 oil for the last 5000 miles in the civic, no problems at all, and used a st 7317 filter. Nothin wrong with them in my book.

 

[SilverC6]

Warren makes (blends) most of the house brands at the stores where we all shop.

Warren also makes (blends) most of the bulk oil used at the quickie oil change joints that we don't frequent.

The great majority of the US that doesn't care about oil has Warren in their oil pan right now.

Warren sells more oil than we all think.

 

[4ever4d]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Warren makes (blends) most of the house brands at the stores where we all shop.

Warren also makes (blends) most of the bulk oil used at the quickie oil change joints that we don't frequent.

The great majority of the US that doesn't care about oil has Warren in their oil pan right now.

Warren sells more oil than we all think.

I've been looking into Warren oils a bit.I feel that they are better oils than they get credit for.