Super mega "godzilla" El Niño this winter

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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
If you want to put blind faith in governments around the world to stop a problem that may not even exist and that's potentially built upon fraud, well, god help the rest of us...


Nothing can help us when folks are so willing to blindly follow. Plus much of the "action" is being driven by a zealous non-elected agency that consults with climate "activists"!

Expect a few billion in new taxes and all sorts of redistribution of money into cronies pockets...
 
Originally Posted By: Al
July was the hottest global month ever. This year is on track to be the hottest global year ever.

http://news.yahoo.com/feeling-heat-earth-july-hottest-month-record-150129081.html



Really, how do "they" know? They haven't been keeping records for millions of years have they? Again science also shows that long before man was keeping records about temperatures the earth's climate was MUCH warmer than today. How do you explain that?
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Yet silence about critical environmental destruction like deforestation. How many people know that the tropical rain
forests are the earths natural thermostat and we have lost a large percentage of them in just the last 50 years?
 
Same folks that thought the dollar would crash, gold would sore to infinity and the US would collapse. Sigh.....next please.
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Yet silence about critical environmental destruction like deforestation. How many people know that the tropical rain
forests are the earths natural thermostat and we have lost a large percentage of them in just the last 50 years?


CO2 is the bad guy here, quit rocking the boat!
We need to keep lowering the CO2 limits until every breath you and I exhale becomes taxable. Only then can the climate change be stopped.
 
Buster, how accurate do you think Thermocouples were 100, 200, 500+ years ago?

About as good as the oils were back then, compared to the oils of today.

Global Warming, oh wait, nevermind, Climate Change is the biggest hoax on Mankind.
They even had to change the name, lol.
 
Originally Posted By: Turk
Originally Posted By: hatt
LOL at buster. First he posts about Exxon knowing about GW in 1981 and then he posts a temp chart showing they couldn't have known in 1981.


.....and in the 70's, there was high concern about global cooling. Look it up.




Correct...and the same "alarmists" were raising hysteria over the coming ice age.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
If you want to put blind faith in governments around the world to stop a problem that may not even exist and that's potentially built upon fraud, well, god help the rest of us...


Nothing can help us when folks are so willing to blindly follow. Plus much of the "action" is being driven by a zealous non-elected agency that consults with climate "activists"!

Expect a few billion in new taxes and all sorts of redistribution of money into cronies pockets...



"blindly follow" - I blindly follow those who present facts/data based on research based on the scientific method.
It isn't a coincidence that those on the right don't follow this logic. Talk about people who "blindly follow" without data...
 
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"blindly follow" - I blindly follow those who present facts/data based on research based on the scientific method.
It isn't a coincidence that those on the right don't follow this logic. Talk about people who "blindly follow" without data...



Exactly.
 
"I'm often asked if I believe in global warming. I now just reply with the question: Do you believe in gravity?" - N.DT

Climate change has taken on political dimensions. That's odd because I don't see
people choosing sides over E=MC² or other fundamental facts of science.
 
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TYSON: We can't seem to stop burning up all those buried trees from way back in the carboniferous age, in the form of coal. And the remains of ancient plankton in the form of oil and gas. If we could, we'd be home free climate-wise. Instead, we are dumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere at a rate the earth hasn't seen since the great climate catastrophes of the past. The ones that led to mass extinctions. We just can't seem to break our addiction to the kinds of fuel that will bring back a climate last seen by the dinosaurs, a climate that will drown our coastal cities and wreak havoc on the environment and our ability to feed ourselves. All the while, the glorious sun pours immaculate, free energy down upon us, more than we will ever need. Why can't we summon the ingenuity and courage of the generations that came before us? The dinosaurs never saw that asteroid coming. What's our excuse?

 
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/dec/07/climate-change-denial-industry


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The climate denial industry is out to dupe the public. And it's working

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Even if you were to exclude every line of evidence that could possibly be disputed – the proxy records, the computer models, the complex science of clouds and ocean currents – the evidence for man-made global warming would still be unequivocal. You can see it in the measured temperature record, which goes back to 1850; in the shrinkage of glaciers and the thinning of sea ice; in the responses of wild animals and plants and the rapidly changing crop zones
 
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But people behind these campaigns know that their claims are untrue. One of the biggest was run by the Global Climate Coalition, which represented ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, the American Petroleum Institute and several big motor manufacturers. In 1995 the coalition's own scientists reported that "the scientific basis for the greenhouse effect and the potential impact of human emissions of greenhouse gases such as CO2 on climate is well-established and cannot be denied". The coalition hid this finding from the public, and spent millions of dollars seeking to persuade people that the opposite was true.

These people haven't fooled themselves, but they might have fooled you. Who, among those of you who claim that climate scientists are liars and environmentalists are stooges, has thought it through for yourself?
 
Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
Originally Posted By: Turk
Originally Posted By: hatt
LOL at buster. First he posts about Exxon knowing about GW in 1981 and then he posts a temp chart showing they couldn't have known in 1981.


.....and in the 70's, there was high concern about global cooling. Look it up.




Correct...and the same "alarmists" were raising hysteria over the coming ice age.


How quickly we forget.

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It is very hard to take the "Climate Changers" (wait, it's not "Global Warming" anymore?) people seriously anymore. It seems to have become a political topic.

My family proudly displayed a can of R134a freon as Facebook profile pic on Earth Day. I was the one that took offense to this, as Earth Day always made sense to me.. Recycle, respect the planet, keep the animals happy. So I couldn't believe they would be such jerks, proudly embracing something with all those CFCs, if released to atmosphere. Of course, if not introduced to atmosphere, it's fine. But they let the excess of it escape the can in a Walmart parking lot. So if they can do it, well, then...
 
Nope. Computer technology has improved exponentially since that time, and as a result so has climate science.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
Nope. Computer technology has improved exponentially since that time, and as a result so has climate science.
Until computers become self aware they're only as good as the guy writing the program and inputting the data. You can use a TRS80 to show warming if you adjust the temps up(YOU GUYS ALWAYS AVOID THIS FACT) before putting them in the computer.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
Same folks that thought the dollar would crash, gold would sore to infinity and the US would collapse. Sigh.....next please.
That final chapter is yet to be written. Only an absolute fool would believe you can live off credit cards forever.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
hatt, your state is leading the charge in biased, anti science, denier, politicians

I think you have it backwards....exactly backwards. Mere agit-prop from the hive mind of eco-concensus. The wheels have already come off the mass-movement formerly known as global warming/AGW/climate-change. It's shattered into pieces after running straight into the ditch. So typical of all leftist movements founded on hysteria, raw emotion, fear and insecurity. No doubt brilliant in their speed, getting others quickly on-board, and their use of politik-speak and phrasing to unite the cause and propel the movement forward. Mark Twain said "A lie can get half-way around the world before the Truth ever gets its boots on." Indeed. Truth has finally done so, and caught up, and exposed yet another radicalized, environmental mass-movement for what lies at its heart: Man-made Fraud.

There's nothing new here. I've seen and heard it all before. One of the advantages of age and a keen skeptical eye for fads...and frauds. PT Barnum was right "There IS a sucker born every minute."

When the eco-movement started in the late 50's it wasn't nearly as radical and militant as it is now. However, history shows this is the defined path of such emotional mass-movements as they progress through the stages. The topics then were global freezing, over-population, Love Canal, DDT & nuclear power.

How ironic the later has the renewable hip-hop-flip-flop eco-crowd wrapping their arms around its cooling towers! Where is Simkin when I need him? He'd tear his smelly t-shirt, dump organic ashes on his head and drive his VW bus on the sidewalk at such news. Not to mention shut-up..finally.

Re: Kudos to Florida for eliminating the agit-speak in govn't documents. Those terms are nothing but aging, useless politik now. Burned through and cindered from the hot fires of the 1st stage.

Originally Posted By: surfstar
When it comes to biased scientists, I'm betting that there are much fewer in the 97% that agree vs the 3% who are obviously paid to disagree.

More agit-prop and backward statements. Further you aren't even aware of how foolish you look using that as an argument. Talk about a straw-man. Time to come up with something else as that play-book is already out in the open. Finally, "much" fewer?? FAR fewer.


Originally Posted By: surfstar
It is much easier to take down the opponents. Because, as you've seen, all of the denier articles etc, come from highly biased sources, that were paid for by Big Oil/Coal/etc or by groups who were founded with the specific purpose of denying climate change (who in turn are paid by those same corps).

Yawn....dude. You're just reguritating the agit-speak you've been willingly spoon-fed by the hive mind. Same song, verse 10,000,000. We've all heard it before. Bigxxx: Bad. Big_Green: Good. You should learn to think for yourself, independant of the hive-mind of eco-conscience, where resistance is futile. You should learn to question such abusive authority.

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Universities that fund the majority of scientific research were not founded on those types of principals.

Really? The glistening-white-ivory-towers of academia are immune to such infection and corruption? Hardly. Once again, you've got it backwards: They're bastions of it. Left and ... well even more left. Not only have you drunk the Kool-Aid, you're doing so from the very hot-pot in which you're being boiled! Have you checked your temp lately?

One more grammer lesson: Go look up the difference between principals and principles. You've gotten that one backwards as well...

Finally, while you are entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. These are indeed inconvenient Truths. The alcohol-fueled emotional mass-movement ref'd to was so busy, going so fast, head-down, texting, they ran right into the FACTS. Inheritantly unyielding, that's why "the movement" is in pieces, in the ditch.

Spouting such, from a failed, twisted state such a Calif. makes you look really bad and foolish. What a shame such a beautiful state, with such a beautiful coastline, has suffered from such closed-minded, aging 60's radicals, still desperately attempting to hold onto power. Perhaps their arthritis prevents them from letting go?

Yesterday's Flower Children are Today's Blooming Idiots!

Indeed...
 
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