Sun at its hottest

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Think this will make the real news? Think again.

"According to scientists, the Sun’s radiance has changed little during this period. But looking back over 1,150 years, Solanki found the Sun had never been as bright as in the past 60 years....

...Looking back over several hundred years, Solanki’s team found that not only did a dearth of sunspots signal a cold period – sometimes for as long as 50 years – but they also discovered that the number of sunspots increased over the past century as the Earth’s climate grew steadily warmer."

Come on Keith ONLY man's activities cause global warming, because that's what they teach in schools.
 
How dare you make an such obvious generalization. All of mankind is not responsible for the suns increase in temperature, only those in North America using internal combustion engines can contribute to the sun's warming. Obviously the millions of people in smaller countries with non emissions controlled engines, the burning of forests, or the shear number of people in the world cannot effect the sun.
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I'm on vacation right now down in West Palm Beach Florida and I'd say the sun is HOT.
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Oh, water temp. is 84F.
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[ July 20, 2004, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: buster ]
 
The next thing is you guys are going to be blaming the volcanos in Antarctica for the hole in the ozone and the disappearance of the ice shelf.
 
In my opinion, there are forces, or a combination of forces, at work here much larger than us here, contributing to our recent weather changes. So for a scientist or a so called expert to make some of these claims, try try to pinpoint what is happening, is just speculation. I guess some need to give these reports to justify their jobs. There is no doubt that the polar ice caps are melting and that there is a hole in the ozone. But sometimes I doubt how much we, as mere men, contribute to these things considering the scale of it all. This world of ours evolves and changes, and would have done it with or without us here.
 
Absolutely, they have been studying way to little for way to short a time to have any sort of real knowledge of what man may or may not have done to the earth. This big ball of dirt is amazingly self healing, everything from high C)2 levels making plants grow better which fixes the CO2 problem to the mundane little things like here we have had a lot of rain, which means lots of mosquitos, well guess what we got a bumper crop of dragon flies, guess what their favorite food is? Mosquito population is back to normal pretty fast at least in my yard.
 
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Imagine a sphere the size of earth's orbit around the sun. Now imagine the radiant heat energy passing through the all points on the area of that sphere equal to the heat you feel from the sun on a summer day. It's a mind boggling amount of energy that thing emits. (Just some rambling thoughs from laying in the sunshine.)
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Rick, I believ that is called a Dyson sphere, a topic of many science fiction stories. It would be the most efficient and huge environment possible, if it's possible.

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Originally posted by Schmoe:
We are not making a difference, we are only along for the ride.

I think common sense alone dictates that we are responsible. We have literally turned a significiant amount of stored energy-mainly coal and oil into released energy which is a heat emitting process. Now this heat emitting process reverses the amount of time it took to turn Carbon and Oxygen compounds into Carbon/Hydrogen chains. In addition a large percentage of former tree covered land (again Oxygen liberating/Heat absorbing) is now heat emitting Oxygen consuming factories, parking lots, houses grazing land.

Seems pretty obvious to me
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Just think back from what we know over the past ka-jillion years. Think what the Earth has been through....meteor showers, plate tectonics, volcanoes, astroids slamming into the earth, ice age, gravity shifts, magnetic shifts, tidal waves, hurricanes, blizzards, flooding, sun spots, El Nino, El Nina, etc. etc. Do you really think that for the short time that humans became industrialized that we've interferred with the natural progression/progress of things? We are not making a difference, we are only along for the ride.
 
Well there appears to be at least one area that we are making a change.......peat bogs, and carbon liberation.

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The world’s peat bogs are haemorrhaging carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, accelerating global warming, warns a UK researcher.

And worse still, the process appears to be feeding off itself, as rising atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide are triggering further releases from the bogs.

Whether it's leading to a global climate change or not, it seems to prove that WE are making a difference.
 
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