Suggest best car for frequent long trips

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Regarding how Camrys drive, Motor Trend obviously disagrees. In fact, they placed the Malibu second to last (above the Altima) in their May 2010 comparison. The Camry was the winner of the comparison.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...ison/index.html

Of the Camry, they say:

"Twist the key, drive off, and the Camry continues to impress with its supple ride quality and hushed cabin environment, especially at highway speeds. St. Antoine takes up the narrative: "Okay, steering feel and handling prowess are not outstanding, but when you hustle this slice of milquetoast, it shrugs off road imperfections and carves through turns just fine. There's lots of chassis roll but no loss of control. Seemingly excels at nothing, yet it really excels at everything. A driving enthusiast might want a more involving and athletic machine, but for 99 percent of buyers shopping in this category, the Camry simply nails the mission profile."

And for those who like numbers, check out how all the sedans did through Motor Trend’s figure-eight course. The Camry beat them all except for the Hyundai. The ride/handling compromise really is as good as Motor Trend reports.

Having owned one (a Camry) for going on 6 months and 5,200 miles now, I can give you my impressions. The drive is superb. It's not a sports car, nor does it play one on TV. It has an honesty about it that many other cars don't have it. It is what it is and doesn't pretend to be something else.

OP, if you're looking for a fuel-efficient car that will eat a lot of miles very easily, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the modern mainstream 4-door sedans. I'm averaging 29.6 MPG overall with mine, and it'll get low-to-mid 30s on the road. The 6-speed automatic keeps the 2.5L I-4 where it needs to be all the time (which is usually spinning pretty slow). 0-60 of 8.4 seconds is reasonable for a car of this size and MPG. The car is simple and easy to maintain, and the ergonomics are painstakingly simple.

There's a reason why it's continually a best seller. I'm pretty sure they're still giving them away, too. In the wake of the recall press, a Camry's value is pretty good.
 
Originally Posted By: bigmike
My vote is with Kaboomba and Crownvic.. A grand marquis can be had for pretty cheap and it's a good ride.



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My kid has 303K miles on his 00 P71. He does a lot of highway driving [160 miles per day] and gets good mileage like the rest of our fleet. It's been a good car [like the rest of our fleet] even though it did police and taxi duty. Parts are very cheap and easy to get anywhere. For long hauls they are the best.

Getting a Hybrid for highway driving really isn't worth it.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Regarding how Camrys drive, Motor Trend obviously disagrees. In fact, they placed the Malibu second to last (above the Altima) in their May 2010 comparison. The Camry was the winner of the comparison.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...ison/index.html

Of the Camry, they say:

"Twist the key, drive off, and the Camry continues to impress with its supple ride quality and hushed cabin environment, especially at highway speeds. St. Antoine takes up the narrative: "Okay, steering feel and handling prowess are not outstanding, but when you hustle this slice of milquetoast, it shrugs off road imperfections and carves through turns just fine. There's lots of chassis roll but no loss of control. Seemingly excels at nothing, yet it really excels at everything. A driving enthusiast might want a more involving and athletic machine, but for 99 percent of buyers shopping in this category, the Camry simply nails the mission profile."

And for those who like numbers, check out how all the sedans did through Motor Trend’s figure-eight course. The Camry beat them all except for the Hyundai. The ride/handling compromise really is as good as Motor Trend reports.

Having owned one (a Camry) for going on 6 months and 5,200 miles now, I can give you my impressions. The drive is superb. It's not a sports car, nor does it play one on TV. It has an honesty about it that many other cars don't have it. It is what it is and doesn't pretend to be something else.

OP, if you're looking for a fuel-efficient car that will eat a lot of miles very easily, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the modern mainstream 4-door sedans. I'm averaging 29.6 MPG overall with mine, and it'll get low-to-mid 30s on the road. The 6-speed automatic keeps the 2.5L I-4 where it needs to be all the time (which is usually spinning pretty slow). 0-60 of 8.4 seconds is reasonable for a car of this size and MPG. The car is simple and easy to maintain, and the ergonomics are painstakingly simple.

There's a reason why it's continually a best seller. I'm pretty sure they're still giving them away, too. In the wake of the recall press, a Camry's value is pretty good.


Go research how M/T awards COTY/TOTY and realize their objectivity is, by and large, nonexistent. Things like how the manufacturer is going to publicize their COTY award factors in.

From firsthand experience, I find the Camry unimpressive compared to several of its contemporaries. FWIW, the very same Camry was placing dead last in most of these comparisons a year or two ago, then better cars from Ford, GM, and Hyundai come along, with no substantive changes to the Camry, and all of the sudden it jumps back up in these tests. The same traits it was bashed for a couple of years ago suddenly became positives, and Toyota is rewarded for building the dullest knife in the drawer. Toyota likely sent some cash in the glove box of their newer press cars.
 
If you read the blurb about the Fusion, the last time MT tested a Fusion, it finished fifth, drawing fire from its anemic 2.3L engine. What wonders a powertrain can do to a car. In addition, the last time MT tested a Camry, it finished third, not "dead last". The jump from third to first was partly explained by MT as the significantly new 2.5L/6AT powertrain. The devil's in the details.

I also don't believe the Camry handles as sloppily as some insist. Scoring second best in a handling loop, and scoring average in the skidpad loop doesn't equate to handling like a "1980s Buick". If that's the case, the others must have also been handling like 1980s Buicks for the Camry to have been able to keep up with the pack.

If you don't like the Camry, that's fine. If you think MT's paid off, that's also fine. The car still stands for itself, and represents a solid choice given the OP's stated objectives for a road-worthy automobile.
 
We have a 2006 Corolla which has taken my family of four on numerous long highway jaunts. It has been from Akron/Canton to Memphis four or five times and we also did a vacation where we drove to New Orleans and back. Last trip was to Myrtle beach and back.

I know many here would complain about lack of power, too small, etc etc ad infinitum but I have really come to respect how this car does not beat me up on a long drive.

It is funny because the driving position, at first, felt very awkward and I thought the designers must be foolish. Now I have come to respect their choices. It is a shame because if I had come to this realization sooner I would also probably be driving a Corolla instead of my wretched ION.

The ION begins to become painful on any trip longer than an hour and a half or so.
 
Too bad the Jeep doesn't get better gas mileage, because even after a 7 hour drive, I can get out feeling comfortable, not even slightly cramped or sore, and I get out feeling awake and refreshed. Plus, it's got plenty of power on the highway.
 
Comfortable and stylish?

Well that eliminates the Camry and Golf/Rabbit.
The 5-door Golf is immensely practical for carrying stuff but not exactly stylish. I mean it's a truncated backside style hatchback. Not a more gentle sloping hatch like Saab or Mazda.
But on the plus side, BusinessWeek and Star Telegram automotive columnist Ed Wallace did praise it's ability to cruise effortlessly on the freeway.

The Camry is exceptionally quiet and smooth. The kind of thing you would expect from a Buick back in the day. (but less "boaty") But stylish? Nahhhh. It's got that weird melted looking grill and is otherwise just a point A to point B appliance.

Since there are so many suggestions for the Ford Fusion, and we do have a cap at $30,000, I'm going to suggest it's black tie brother - the Lincoln MKZ. Very stylish. The Scottish Bridge of Weir leather is outstanding. Fuel economy should be on par with any other V6 midsize. If you get an exceptional low mileage certified pre-owned MKZ, you should have a few thousand left over.
The MKS and new Taurus are enticing too, but they push us over that $30K mark.
 
Another vote here for the Merc GMQ, or a Crown Vic. Stylish IS in the eye of the beholder, however these cars are long and sleek. The R&P steering in the later models provides good road feel, and nimble handling, and the available "large" bucket seats in front are very comfortable. Moya routinely gets mid to high 20's on the HWY at generaly higher than "legal-speeds" No, they are not "flashy" in comparison to many more newly designed models, but have more than decent creature comforts, ride nicely, and even on mine with Flowmaster Delta 40's and dual exhaust, cruise quietly.
 
I dont care what any ragazine says about the camry. Ived raced, Ive owned over 65 cars. The Camry drives like junk compred to most anything else in its class. It is NOT smooth, it has intrusive centre console, overcomplex automatic shifter gate - but mainly the Gestalt is not = the sum of its parts. Everytime I got out of this pig after driveing the 30 some odd mixed miles to work, I got out of the car ( ran out actually, as if scolded by DAEmons) and said. "Boy, I HATE that car." Same thing with my Fathers' 01 Lexus 300, though I admit that car was a bit better than the '10 camry.
Again, Loneranger, check out the new German Buick Regal. (Though I would worry about relaibility in any Opel, however unfounded. Thoughts of the excellent though troubled Cadillac Catera)
 
I can recommend not a G35 - very comfortable,, low maintenance, low fuel efficiency.

I would test drive a bunch of cars and see first what is comfortable for you - lots of people here like the ford panther platform, I personally do not like driving those boats and my daily commute is 200 miles with at least a few 1,000 mile trips per month - but I respect them for being very good cars if you like that type of ride.

I am more comfortable in an altima/civic/jetta/neon.

I agree that the new malibu seems nicer than the camry - i don't know which will be better in 100k.

There is a large disparity in MPG numbers - when I drive the crown vics I average about 14 mpg - my best on a trip across Texas was 19. when I drive my wifes BMW 528 I average 25 and 31 on trips at 80. When I drive a Focus I can't get less than mid 20's no matter how hard I try.

i thought the ford 500 was a very comfortable car, but most people disagree with me. it was drastically underpowered.

Anyway the point of all this is you need to drive the cars. go rent one if you can and sit in it for a few hours and see if your legs go numb or your knees hurt because of some strange angle.

before I bought my first G35 I rented one and put almost 1,000 miles on it.

MY favorite vehicles to do long trips in are full size trucks, but then you are in the single digit fuel mileage range.

I rent cars every couple weeks and put a lot of mile on different vehicles.

depending on your maintenance budget a couple year old Mercedes E320 CDI gets great mileage, mid 30's at 80mph and is very comfortable and solid. they are in your price range but a problem could easily be very costly. My mom has one that she bought new and now has 100k with only a couple minor sensor issues.
 
I'm going to say Fusion. Non-hybrid with the 2.5L I-4.

I'm also going to mention another car that noone has mentioned yet- a new Malibu with the 2.4L. Both are great cars.
 
Originally Posted By: CBR.worm


There is a large disparity in MPG numbers - when I drive the crown vics I average about 14 mpg - my best on a trip across Texas was 19. when I drive my wifes BMW 528 I average 25 and 31 on trips at 80. When I drive a Focus I can't get less than mid 20's no matter how hard I try.





There are different rear ends that can be in a Crown Vic. My Grand Marquis has the 2.73 and the lowest MPG I've ever seen on a long trip was about 24. This was with 4 people, an overloaded trunk and some very bad weather.
When I drive from Southern Ca. to Phoenix by myself (400 miles one way) several times I have hit above 29 MPG - once an even 30. This is driving at or about 5 mph over the speed limit with the a/c on. The speed limit in Ca. is 70, in Arizona 75. I've made this trip at least twice a year for the last 15 years or so.

I like the Grand Marquis for long trips. It's comfy and I like the combination of power/MPG. Yes there are many much more powerful drivetrains out there, but speed is not my objective.
As for looks - beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Somebody started a post here recently about what would be their next new car and I couldn't believe how ugly it looked and yet people were falling over all it (so to speak).
 
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I'd take a BMW 3 series across the country in a heartbeat.

Comfort, for me, includes not fighting with vauge steering, dealing with inferior seats, listening and feeling noise/vibration/harshness and paying out the [censored] for gas.

Why not pick a car that's not boring, is extremely ergonomic, much cheaper to maintain than stereotypes suggest, and is poised yet fun?

Having grown up in rural Minnesota, I've always been perplexed by the fact that many of the roads are among fun and challenging that one can find anywhere, at least in SE MN. Yet everyone drives around in Buicks and pickup trucks where driving a challenging road is a chore, or even scary.

I say go for something that's fun, efficient, and makes you feel invigorated after a long drive instead of tired.
 
I love Panthers too. With a regular rear diff quite an economical considering the TCO of a purchased unit as a slightly used one.

But I just saw a fresh Sonata on a lot and I could not agree more with Mr Trav: very impressive. I would take a look at least.
 
Lately, the most impressive 4dr sedan I have driven is a 2010 Maxima S. The base model is extremely well-equipped and the cloth seats are extremely comfortable. I'd take one as both a daily driver and a road trip car in a heartbeat.
 
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