Stealerships and their lies

[highmilegeguy]

There are all kind of stories from dealerships.

A guy I worked with bought a new car AT FACTORY INVOICE. The mgr accepted the offer. At closing he heard that the mgr had a falling out with the owner or president or something and was giving away deals left and right that day knowing he was walking.

Yes, he was gone the next day but the deal stuck since it was signed off on.

 

[yonyon]

These dealerships are businesses and they're there to make money. If they don't crank volume through, they don't make it. There's no way a dealership can play fair when every other competitor is using every dirty trick in the book to pressure or decieve the prospective buyer into buying. If they didn't do that a bank would have chains and locks on the doors within two months. When you go to buy a car from a dealership you need to know three things:
-They're going to try to [censored] you.
-If you're prepared you can at least use a little lube.
-If you actually walk away and don't come back, well, you got away.

Once you've made a purchase don't look back and think about it. Knowing that they pulled one over on you (they did) won't do anything but get you upset. Just enjoy your new car and be happy.

 

[SteveSRT8]

After 40 years of car buying and selling I say this is the typical [censored] stealership game.

First, the offer was WAY too good to be true. That was your tip to simply ignore it. The rest sure looks like typical games whether it was or not.

Glad you got away!

 

[Scott_Tucker]

The best thing you can do when buying a car at a dealer is to walk out. Even if you get the price you want, walk out right before signing the papers and tell them you are going to another dealer and see if you could get a better deal. Have NO sympathy for them. You've got to go in with that attitude. I used that with my recent new Honda purchase and it worked like a charm and I got the car for less than even I was willing to accept. Did it with my wife's car about 6 months earlier too.

 

[PF52]

Originally Posted By: pottymouth

Lighten up. You're the one who thought a dealer mailer promising 20% over book value might be for real. I'd say that makes your judgement questionable.


Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone

Why trade in a nice 2 year old vehicle that you are happy with?


Finally someone said it. Are you that new to this game that you fall for these mailers dealers send out all the time?

I get these things all the time: "Due to unprecedented demand for 20XX such-and-such cars just like yours, we are prepared to offer $XXX over KBB for your trade-in if you buy today!" Its ALWAYS a scam! Don't fall for it.

 

[KrisZ]

I got that too when my car was about 3 years old. That must be their sweet spot for car age because it seems that everybody gets it at about that time. It went into trash right away.

I think that this particular tactic plays heavily on people's vanity. It gives them a seemingly good reason to get rid of their perfectly good car that is almost paid for and replace it with a new one. Afterall, they deserve it.

 

[dwcopple]

the only offer [censored] I read that comes in the mail is for my GM card points. I will NEVER buy another GM product but I do love selling my points at 50-60% face value. Puts some bucks in my pocket and saves someone else money on the car/truck they are buying. Win win. My favorite mailer that goes straight to the trash is the one with the "key" glued on it...LOL

 

[VNTS]

You actually fell for the we want your trade in flier?

We have a couple local toy and nissan dealers who send those stupid things out all the time.

There is no way a dealer can be profitable giving"120%" of the value of the trade unless they are using a bogus baseline or marking the price of the new vehichle way up.

I laugh at those fliers and toss em in the garbage, but I guess the lemmings run in for their new scamrys thinking they are getting a heck of deal. The latest scam from the local Toy store is they send a key glued to the flier, go in and see if it starts the Tundry and it is yours free, yet another scam to get you into the dealer.

 

[Schmoe]

What's really scary is the amount of people that do fall for them. I really wonder what percentage of their sales comes from others that really believe the fliers and head down there and just simply sign without really doing the numbers correctly. My dad sold cars and believe me, I've heard about every trick out there and even dad told me, once you get them to the lot, everything can change and it all depends on the sales person. With that in mind, like others, I simply throw those ads in the trash and wonder how many fall for it. What's worked for me and offers the least amount of salesman or "perky" blonde (LOL) involvement is to do the research and over the phone, tell them what you want and what you're going to pay, period. As for a trade in, again research, and tell them what you want. Have your own financing ready to go, or use manufacturer financing, which Honda seems to have about the lowest out there.

 

[wallyuwl]

Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Why trade in a nice 2 year old vehicle that you are happy with, the '12 is pretty much the same, no?
I would run it at least until the warranty expires.


It has high miles (44600 for a 2010) and is in need of quite a bit of maintenance in short order, including tires (expensive fo this vehicle). It is out of bumper to bumper warranty. Surprisingly, there are a lot of upgrades in the 2012 vs. the 2010, even at the same trim level. And the wife likes some of them. We had circumstances that put a lot of miles on it initially, but won't have those from now on so a new vehicle wouldn't rack up the miles as quick.

This vehicle is very in-demand for used. I've gotten the fliers before and ignored them. This one seemed like it might be worth checking out if the whole package worked out. It didn't.

Didn't matter if we just walked out or not, re: other customers, once they started playing games. It was later in the evening and raining and we were the only customers there.

 

[MysticGold04]

Originally Posted By: css9450
I get these things all the time: "Due to unprecedented demand for 20XX such-and-such cars just like yours, we are prepared to offer $XXX over KBB for your trade-in if you buy today!" Its ALWAYS a scam! Don't fall for it.

LOL! Just got one of these in the mail yesterday from one of the local dealers... they wanted my Toyota Tacoma that I no longer own... hahaha!

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
It has high miles (44600 for a 2010) and is in need of quite a bit of maintenance in short order, including tires (expensive fo this vehicle). It is out of bumper to bumper warranty. .........

Just admit you want a new vehicle for the sake of it being a new vehicle.

Your reasons above are not very logical to most and the math is not in your favor for what you will assume on a new car deprecation the second you drive it off the lot.

You will be dollars ahead to just fix the normal wear and tear stuff and drive it another 5+ years.

I have never understood buyers like yourself that would rather finance out the extra expense on a new car rather than just put the money in the normal maintenance of the current one like they should have in the first place. Buying constantly on fear of a warranty expiration will have you on a never end cycle of debt.

 

[rjundi]

Car dealerships sometimes like to play your emotions to extract more money.

Remember its business not personal. And that is on both sides. If you are not happy with the price simply walk away and state it does not work for me. You are in command with a real power of being able to walk away.

It really throws them off if you show no emotion. They cannot read you which they become experts in.

 

[wallyuwl]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro

Just admit you want a new vehicle for the sake of it being a new vehicle.

Your reasons above are not very logical to most and the math is not in your favor for what you will assume on a new car deprecation the second you drive it off the lot.

You will be dollars ahead to just fix the normal wear and tear stuff and drive it another 5+ years.

I have never understood buyers like yourself that would rather finance out the extra expense on a new car rather than just put the money in the normal maintenance of the current one like they should have in the first place. Buying constantly on fear of a warranty expiration will have you on a never end cycle of debt.


You are 100% wrong. If we wanted a new vehicle just to have a new vehicle we would have taken whatever deal they offered.

We only paid $23500 for the vehicle (a very good deal at the time when these were selling for sticker or higher at most dealers). If they really would have given us $21156 like the flier said, or even that minus the Edmunds mileage adjustment, along with a reasonable price on the new vehicle, we would be stupid not to take advantage of that. But, as we thought they might, things changed when we got there and started actually talking numbers. So we walked.

 

[GMFan]

Don't ever let a dealership pressure you or pull a fast one on you. I've found that if you go in there having done your research they typically won't try to pull and bull down.

I walked out of a Mazda dealership who did me wrong by saying they would source me a car in the color I wanted through a dealership trade only to pressure me into buying one in a different color they had in stock. I had to drive 50+ miles to sign for the car that night only to find out they lied to me. I finally found a helpful dealership, contacted them through email stating "what's your best price" and "can you get me THIS car" and upon getting a fair price and them telling me they found a dealer 200 miles away and would get it for me I went in and signed for a new car that night.

Just remember that YOU are the boss until you sign on that dotted line and absolutely no pressure should be put on you. The scum dealerships exist because people fall for there tricks.

Also, never ever ever believe the acts that take place...the owner and salespersons always do that fake acting to make them look like they're the good guys. Don't buy it for a second. Whenever the salesperson says "that's a low price, let me talk to my manager to see what I can do" they go in the back for a coffee and shoot the bull and then come back and say "my manager won't let me authorize the sale for that price." This is to pass the blame on the imaginary sales manager who isn't even probably working that night.

At the one sleazy dealership I had the salesguy nervous because I called him out on every bull tactic he tried to throw at me. I may have been somewhat of a jerk but hey...this is business and when dropping that much $$ for a product you have a right to be defensive and skeptical toward anyone who tries to take advantage of you.

 

[supton]

This is why I totally dread the next car buying purchase. I don't mind doing research, but hate high-pressue tactics. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if I did it more often--but once every 5 years is hardly enough.

 

[Vikas]

Until my cars passed 10 year mark, I was getting those mailers! They really wanted my 2000 Maxima in 2010

Well it works for the folks who fall $9.99 state inspection deal.

 

[lexus114]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Until my cars passed 10 year mark, I was getting those mailers! They really wanted my 2000 Maxima in 2010

Well it works for the folks who fall $9.99 state inspection deal.



Yeah I know right?

 

[opus1]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Until my cars passed 10 year mark, I was getting those mailers! They really wanted my 2000 Maxima in 2010

Well it works for the folks who fall $9.99 state inspection deal.
You wouldn't believe the demand for a 1994 Ranger, at least according to the Ford dealer that keeps sending me postcards trying to pursuade me to come in for an appraisal.

 

[Whimsey]

Strange, no dealer wants my 11 year old truck or 17 year old car as a trade. They don't even want my wifes 7 year old EB Explorer

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Whimsey