Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I think its funny that you guys think you are buying synthetics off the shelf in US of A! A real syn only make a noticable difference below -35C by reducing the cloud point and improved cold viscometrics. Good luck finding that 85% PAO cold syn these days other than Motul or Amsoil. Loo9k for MRV better (less) than 10K cP at respective multigrade 5w or 0w test temp.
I`m with you on this one Arco. Unless you`re getting a genuine PAO or ester based synthetic(RP,Amsoil,RL,Motul,etc),just go with the dino,since most "over the counter" synths are dinos anyway,right? I just don`t see how a "cleaned up" dino could protect any better than a regular high quality dino,especially where you`re seeing engines going 400,000+ miles on Pennzoil yb and Valvoline wb.
I have done the slosh test in my freezer at -2F with dino 5-30 and M1 5-30 and the latter was mush more fluid than the dino.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I think its funny that you guys think you are buying synthetics off the shelf in US of A! A real syn only make a noticable difference below -35C by reducing the cloud point and improved cold viscometrics. Good luck finding that 85% PAO cold syn these days other than Motul or Amsoil. Loo9k for MRV better (less) than 10K cP at respective multigrade 5w or 0w test temp.
I`m with you on this one Arco. Unless you`re getting a genuine PAO or ester based synthetic(RP,Amsoil,RL,Motul,etc),just go with the dino,since most "over the counter" synths are dinos anyway,right? I just don`t see how a "cleaned up" dino could protect any better than a regular high quality dino,especially where you`re seeing engines going 400,000+ miles on Pennzoil yb and Valvoline wb.
I have done the slosh test in my freezer at -2F with dino 5-30 and M1 5-30 and the latter was mush more fluid than the dino.