Stanford Professor warns massive UFO disclosure is around the corner.

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Some definitions of life are things like “That quality that distinguishes something from the dead or inanimate.

Ok…not helpful.
 
PWMDMD said:
What I know for sure is you can't and I can't, nor can anyone we know possibly know anything about what an advanced intelligent species does or doesn't know. HOWEVER, what I also know is we have a very good, very solid, and very comprehensive knowledge of physics. Even the things we don't understand fully, like dark energy and dark matter, we know they are there. We know there must be someone way to reconcile general relativity with a quantum description of gravity. We can look out billions of light years into the universe in every direction and every natural phenomenon can be explained by what we already know and those things we can't explain like dark energy and dark matter we know we don't know. The likelihood that our universe is filled with large areas of physics which operate all around us and we do not know exist is very, very, very remote because it would lead to large gaps in our understanding of how the world around us works and those gaps do not exist.
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To be fair, things like the Higgs Boson which is part of the standard model and theorized about back in the '60s was only confirmed to exist in 2012, the loophole free test of Bell's inequality was in 2015 and gravitational waves were theorized by Einstein over a 100 years ago before they were confirmed to exist by LIGO back in 2015. We also have stuff like string theory and loop quantum gravity but haven't really been able to test them to see if they're real or not. We might find out some new stuff regarding dark energy and dark matter from the James Webb telescope, just depends what it sees out there.
 
PWMDMD said:
We can see +13 billions years into the past and a combined 43 billions light years around us in any one direction for a combined 86 billion light year sphere around our planet (thank you inflation!) and everywhere we look, every natural phenomenon we measure, confirm the laws of the universe are uniformly consistent in our universe. So I follow the same laws as you but so do aliens.
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The observable universe is about 93 billion light years in diameter. Also not sure if you're talking about cosmic inflation or dark energy. Cosmic inflation was when universe rapidly expanded and dark energy is the continued expansion of the universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe

UncleDave said:
and therein lies the problem, - no one can explain the data that is corroborated AND vetted.

We have no reason not to believe the data - but dont want to accept where it seems to lead us.
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You can examine data for a long time before coming to a conclusion. I mean it took a while, but David Copperfield also made the statue of liberty disappear once on TV and everyone saw it. Took a while to reveal how he really did it. Everyone always wants instant gratification and are always jumping to conclusions.

https://www.iheart.com/content/2017...erfield-made-the-statue-of-liberty-disappear/
 
I seen two of these.... plain as day.... following each other . What are they ?


Screenshot 2022-08-24 at 21-47-38 Cigar Shaped UFO Over Idaho It Definitely Exists Flipboard.webp
 
atikovi said:
Maybe their planet was orbiting a star that was about explode in the next 100 years and they were exploring for a similar habitable planet to move their civilization too? Yea, just sci-fi, but makes a good movie plot.
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You do realize in about a billion years, the output of the sun will continue to increase and make the earth hot enough to boil off the oceans right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth
https://www.livescience.com/64822-could-oceans-boil-away.html
 
HemiBenny said:
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That is, by far and away, one of my favoite movie quotes of all time.
Mostly because it's one of the most TRUE statements ever recorded denoting the simplistic evaluation of mankind.
Talk with a person, and you can speak with candor, and explain things, and come to an understanding.
Talk with people, and it's a mob mentality, full of vitriol, doubt, anger, denial and hostility.
 
Wolf359 said:
You do realize in about a billion years, the output of the sun will continue to increase and make the earth hot enough to boil off the oceans right?
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Been a few decades since Astronomy 101, but as I recall, not only will the oceans boil off, but the sun will expand enough to engulf the planet. Time to put your house on the market.
 
atikovi said:
Been a few decades since Astronomy 101, but as I recall, not only will the oceans boil off, but the sun will expand enough to engulf the planet. Time to put your house on the market.
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Yeah but that's in 7.5 billion years, oceans boiling off in 1 billion is a bit closer.
 
Wolf359 said:
To be fair, things like the Higgs Boson which is part of the standard model and theorized about back in the '60s was only confirmed to exist in 2012, the loophole free test of Bell's inequality was in 2015 and gravitational waves were theorized by Einstein over a 100 years ago before they were confirmed to exist by LIGO back in 2015. We also have stuff like string theory and loop quantum gravity but haven't really been able to test them to see if they're real or not. We might find out some new stuff regarding dark energy and dark matter from the James Webb telescope, just depends what it sees out there.
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This is the GREATEST evidence possible that we know exactly what we are talking about! Our theories allowed us to make predictions 100 years before we had the technology to test them. The inability to test these theories is not a fault of the theory itself but is imposed by technological limitations.
 
I figure any beings that are capable of getting here can have their way with us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Hope they're nice.
 
PWMDMD said:
This is the GREATEST evidence possible that we know exactly what we are talking about! Our theories allowed us to make predictions 100 years before we had the technology to test them. The inability to test these theories is not a fault of the theory itself but is imposed by technological limitations.
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Figuring out the existence of the Higgs Boson prior to being able to prove it was amazing.

Eratosthenes figured out the world was round and what the circumference basically was in something like 230BC - and we still have cretins running around trying to "prove" otherwise.
 
UncleDave said:
You said this in post 121

"they are the same thing - completely equivalent"
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Now that I'm having coffee and slept here's the easiest way to see mass-energy equivalence. Constants are only in equations as conversion factors for units. When thinking about the effect changing one variable has on another it's easiest to arbitrarily set the constants to 1 which drops them out of the equation any time they're being multiplied. For instance is we set the units of c to light years per year it now is equal to 1 and:

E=mc^2 now becomes E=m

The fact we set c = 1 ly/y does not change the meaning of this equation in anyway.
 
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