Id say interchangeable but not the same things- different forms of the same thing.
Stanford Professor warns massive UFO disclosure is around the corner.
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Hopefully they don't ask to see our leader.
Except there is years of data. From everywhere.
This is a major reversal of 100 years of " nothing to see policy".
Nope...matter is confined energy. Mass is a form of energy. To have energy is to have (initial) mass and to have mass is to have energy. They are only conserved and able to be converted from one form to another because they are fundamentally the same thing.
Different manifestations of the same thing.
I can't explain their data but that doesn't change any of our laws of physics which are measurable, testable, and predictable.
Yes, precisely what I said.
and therein lies the problem, - no one can explain the data that is corroborated AND vetted.
We have no reason not to believe the data - but dont want to accept where it seems to lead us.
1. If you can't explain it then you don't understand it and you can never be sure it's real and true. This observational data has A LONG way to go before it "verified".
2. THAT dats does NOTHING to change the known laws of physics. Data is just data and data needs to be properly interpreted and that interpretation must lead to some working theory that describes the data accurately and allows you to predict and test the theory. If that bar is set at arbitrary value of 100 for tested and verified theories then the observational data you presented sits at about a 5. You are advocating that we throw out the 100 for the 5 because there's a chance we don't understand everything.
This is nonsensical thinking being driven by some eureka moment/thought in your brain. I get it, I love the eureka moments and they happen much less as I get older, but I only ever wanted eureka moments for things that were true and represented reality.
Yes, I did, which is what you said too.....
"they are the same thing - completely equivalent" and "Different manifestations of the same thing." are equivalent statements.
You cant explain it. Nor can the multiple people and equipment that corroborated it.
I'm not trying to change the laws of physics - Im simply observing that these devices dont seem to follow them.
Government already acknowledged it and these observations. Our opinions dont matter.
Even IF life elsewhere could trek the vast distances in a timely manor, WHY would they when there is nothing here of enough value to anyone that they could not obtain at much closer distances to where they originate.
Lets travel 100s of light years across dangerous space to mine something we have in our backyard, and then travel that distance back with it. Yea right, like that is going to happen. And add to that, that smaller objects in space do not have any where near as much gravity to deal with when leaving after mining them. Would you travel half way around the world to get an item at a grocery store when there are grocery stores with the same items within walking distance. Now apply that logic to a much larger scale.
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Ok - Lets say you and I agree on this.
Maybe their planet was orbiting a star that was about explode in the next 100 years and they were exploring for a similar habitable planet to move their civilization too? Yea, just sci-fi, but makes a good movie plot.
We call a little squiggle of waves in the electromagnetic field that travel at light speed a photon - we agree that's a form of energy. Back to my other post about 4-dimensional spacetime - because it's traveling at light-speed it can not have (rest) mass and it is then by definition energy.
We can also say the quarks, gluons, and the electron in a hydrogen atom are just little squiggles in various quantum fields just like the photon with the only real difference being they are not traveling at the speed of light, they interact with the Higgs field, and instead they are confined to some sub-light speed existence in a defined position (At least macroscopically - I don't want to get into wave functions, uncertainty and probabilistic physics - you get the idea). The fact that one form travels light speed and is not confined to a definite position and the other is traveling at sub-light speed with a definitely position IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. They are both forms energy.
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On the first sentence Ill agree, after that I'll trust you.
Did we trust when we were told there is nothing to see?
Do we trust now when we are told there is?
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Out of the vastness of the universe, we're definitely not the only "life form" out there. Who knows what "alien" life is? Could be something as simple as a virus, a protein, or something that's beyond what we know as "life". Other worlds may have already come and gone. We'll never know. Millions of years from now, we may be known as a "primitive" life form, we may be extinct, etc.
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Begs the question - what is life?
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