Son's 5500 Dodge needed new rear end bearings

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At 50,000 miles. 2008 two ton Chassis cab and he towes a lot. Backhoe or small dozer. We see a lot of one ton trucks here towing backhoes though.


The manual says change the rear end fliud every 15,000 miles and he had not changed it yet. Seens very often but could this be the reason for the bearing failure?
 
It probably contributed to it, but may not be the exclusive reason for the failure.
If a factory recommends such early and often changes, there must be a reason. They would love to have extended lube changes.
It's just part of the price to play with that machine.
 
I wonder how that backhoe and trailer compares with the rated towing capacity of the truck. That's a pretty big load depending of what machine you're talking about. Of course any 1-ton will PULL it... but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. Particularly in the steep hills and hollers in your area.
 
So...at the risk of re-stating the obvious...he went 3+ times the factory specified maintenance interval and then the part failed?

Seems like a self-induced problem to me...

If he went 30K on the factory oil fill and then threw a rod in an engine full of sludge...would you be asking the same question?
 
It just seems like 15,000 miles is so oftem to change the differential fluid?

Also the manual says change the 6 speed manual trans fulid at 60,000 miles. Does the rear end "work harder" by that much than the trans? That's four times more often.
 
It may be that the rear end is undersized and worked hard...so, more frequent changes keep it alive...I've owned trucks (5.4 Ford) that were factory fill with synthetic and had 100K changes...

Sure, it seems short, shoot, it is short, but that had to have been done for a reason...and your son discovered the reason...
 
Chrysler products are to lease, not to own. Hopefully in the future they'll be reliable enough to buy.

That short gear oil drain interval suggests that the gears and bearings are too small and worked too hard. The oil must get overheated and have that short life. The best synthetic gear oil plus sticking to the short drain interval is probably wise.
 
I'm guessing that rear has a small oil capacity. The transmission may take much more gear oil.

As Ken2 said - use good quality gear oil and change it often.
 
Ok, well Dodge trucks use the same American Axle products that are used on GM trucks so Chrysler has nothing to do with the axle not being reliable...they do recommend a shorter OCI for them than GM does however....I change mine at about 30K using Severe Gear 75w110...I tow heavy all the time and have not had a bearing issue on any of them ever. My bet is he should have changed the fluid at least once and maybe didn't follow the recommended break-in procedure? it is pretty clearly stated in the manual.
 
Did anybody miss the part where he said it's a 5500? This isn't a pick-up, it's a medium duty truck. The axle isn't too small (13,000 lb. capacity). It isn't over worked. It doesn't have minimal oil capacity (nearly 5 quarts). This is a commercial vehicle, not Johnny Contractor's daily ride.

My first order would be to ask when the last time the rear brakes were pulled apart and inspected? Any signs of a leak at the inner bearing seal?

The outer bearings in a floating axle support the full weight of the vehicle. There is a pool of oil that partially fills the outer bearing housing that lubricates the bearings. If the seal leaks, the pool gets emptied. The pool is filled by gear oil traveling from the pumpkin, down the axle tube, and into the bearing housing. If enough fluid is lost, fluid will only travel down the axle tube when cornering and eventually, not at all. This leaves the bearings high and dry.

I have seen chassis cabs get brought in on the hook with the bearing welded to the spindle due to a lack of lubrication. There are actually mobile repair guys that will cut off and weld new spindles on for this exact conditions. If there's enough demand to support a mobile repair guy, it's not all that uncommon.

Thing is, most rear brake inspections consist of peeking at the pads, looking at the material remaining, and calling it good. Unless it's leaving puddles, nobody looks for a leak and nobody checks the fluid level of the diff. Many bearing seal leaks get missed simply because nobody ever looked for them.
 
Originally Posted By: oliver88
Ok, well Dodge trucks use the same American Axle products that are used on GM trucks


4500 and 5500 use a Dana Spicer commercial unit, not a Corporate 14 bolt.
 
I would say change it according to the book from now on for sure, I have my two cents on Dodge products having worked on many GM Ford and Dodge cars adn trucks...Dodge does not make a very good product especially the lower end trucks...the heavy duty trucks with the cummins are a different story. My dad had many s10 work trucks with 300k plus miles and then he bought a Dakota and in the first 30k the Reverse gear has been rebuilt and the wiring has had its issues...Dodge disapoints me with its products and the V6 Dakota is way underpowered and the trans is weak/
 
The Chrysler [censored] on here is ridiculous.

One axle has a problem likely due to neglect, not even made by Chrysler, and a torrent of anecdotal baloney flies everywhere. This exact same axle is under many different platforms and behind a lot of engines, even the mighty Cummins.

My son-in-law has a Dakota with almost 300k miles on it and drives it daily. So what? I'm not going to try and say they are ALL remarkable trucks.

Beware of 'Internet Amplification". Drawing any conclusions from ONE VEHICLE is dangerous and ignorant.
 
It shouldn't have failed that soon but like most 2 tons it was probably overloaded all the time, so that's what happens. Guys work them like big trucks but they are not.

Going forward I'd run a high quality synthetic in the rear and change it every 15k.
 
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