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Should I switch to high mileage oil?
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Originally Posted By: widman
High mileage oils have one thing to offer: High profits for the marketers.
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Why do people keep repeating ignorant statements like this - they're pretty much the same price as non-High Mileage syn oils...
There's no reason to use High Mileage oils in all higher mileage applications, but they're pretty much the same price, especially when you factor in rebates...
High mileage oils have one thing to offer: High profits for the marketers.
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Why do people keep repeating ignorant statements like this - they're pretty much the same price as non-High Mileage syn oils...
There's no reason to use High Mileage oils in all higher mileage applications, but they're pretty much the same price, especially when you factor in rebates...
I personally believe High Mileage oils are a load of crock. If you want to spend that kinda money on High Mileage you might as well just keep using synthetic. High Mileage oils are marketed at vehicles with over 75k miles, 75k miles isn't even considered high mileage anymore in modern engines! That was back in the day when the average engine only lasted 100k miles and was shot. Now, engines are lasting 300k or better.
Anyone here who says using a High Mileage oil is a load of crock or waste of money has no clue what they are talking about. I tried multiple synthetic oils in my 2000 Camry. Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum. My car smoked more with those than regular conventional oil. But even on Conventional oil, my car smoked every time I started it in the morning. Once I switched to Castrol GTX High Mileage oil, the car has stopped doing that smoke. I mean like once a month I may see it, but it's rare. It works. I will say it did take about 3k or so to get the oil worked in before it actually helped, but it finally did.
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Originally Posted By: G35_TX
Anyone here who says using a High Mileage oil is a load of crock or waste of money has no clue what they are talking about. ...
Yeah, High Mileage (Defy) oil stopped the weeping seals on my father's Taurus. If extra seal conditioners are a "crock", then tell API that since they upped the seal conditioners in SN-rated oils...
Originally Posted By: jongies3
I personally believe High Mileage oils are a load of crock.
Specifically, why? They DON'T have extra seal conditioners? Aren't mostly syn-blends? You're entitled to your opinion but something tells me you haven't thought it out...
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If you want to spend that kinda money on High Mileage you might as well just keep using synthetic.
Or use a fully synthetic high mileage oil? Again, what is "that kind of money on High Mileage"? How much more is High Mileage oil costing? A $1 more for a 5qt. jug over conventional? Most have good rebates of $5-$10 (Defy and MaxLife) available making them LESS expensive for a syn-blend over a conventional...
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High Mileage oils are marketed at vehicles with over 75k miles, 75k miles isn't even considered high mileage anymore in modern engines! That was back in the day when the average engine only lasted 100k miles and was shot. Now, engines are lasting 300k or better.
Of course it isn't, but the 75K marketing thing came out in the mid-90's with the first High Mileage oil, MaxLife, when people still thought going past 50,000 miles on an engine was a bit iffy. It was the happy medium between the marketing people at Ashland that wanted to put 50K on the bottle and those that thought 100K was more realistic as "high mileage". They've continued with it ever since. I agree that anything before 100,000 miles is not really High Mileage. But Silly marketing and hype doesn't make an oil product-lineup or choice a "crock" or else ALL oils would be a crock!
Anyone here who says using a High Mileage oil is a load of crock or waste of money has no clue what they are talking about. ...
Yeah, High Mileage (Defy) oil stopped the weeping seals on my father's Taurus. If extra seal conditioners are a "crock", then tell API that since they upped the seal conditioners in SN-rated oils...
Originally Posted By: jongies3
I personally believe High Mileage oils are a load of crock.
Specifically, why? They DON'T have extra seal conditioners? Aren't mostly syn-blends? You're entitled to your opinion but something tells me you haven't thought it out...
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If you want to spend that kinda money on High Mileage you might as well just keep using synthetic.
Or use a fully synthetic high mileage oil? Again, what is "that kind of money on High Mileage"? How much more is High Mileage oil costing? A $1 more for a 5qt. jug over conventional? Most have good rebates of $5-$10 (Defy and MaxLife) available making them LESS expensive for a syn-blend over a conventional...
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High Mileage oils are marketed at vehicles with over 75k miles, 75k miles isn't even considered high mileage anymore in modern engines! That was back in the day when the average engine only lasted 100k miles and was shot. Now, engines are lasting 300k or better.
Of course it isn't, but the 75K marketing thing came out in the mid-90's with the first High Mileage oil, MaxLife, when people still thought going past 50,000 miles on an engine was a bit iffy. It was the happy medium between the marketing people at Ashland that wanted to put 50K on the bottle and those that thought 100K was more realistic as "high mileage". They've continued with it ever since. I agree that anything before 100,000 miles is not really High Mileage. But Silly marketing and hype doesn't make an oil product-lineup or choice a "crock" or else ALL oils would be a crock!
I'm a Maxlife fan. Can't get VR-1 here in the People Republic of Kalifornia anymore
But Maxlife has some VR-1 add pack and it's a good High Mileage oil. I'd run Maxlife (red bottle blend) and cruise on. It'll go a long way on most any good oil. But time and miles do wear on seals, so why not
But Maxlife has some VR-1 add pack and it's a good High Mileage oil. I'd run Maxlife (red bottle blend) and cruise on. It'll go a long way on most any good oil. But time and miles do wear on seals, so why not
I have recently switched to HM for 1 OCI, om my 05 F-150 with 72K miles using Valvoline 5w20 Synthetic HM. It is energy conserving as well, reasoning that the seal conditioners would be good b/c of age of gaskets and seals. I will go back to Penn Synthetic 5W20 after this OCI as I really am satisfied with this oil. you have to I don't think there is anything that says you have to keep running a HM after a certain milage.
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Agree - I don't know what that oil company spent to produce that jug, what the seller got it for - none of that.
What I do know is I was going to buy a jug from them anyway.
Look at the actual specs on some of these HM's side by side with the standard of said company - go from there.
What I do know is I was going to buy a jug from them anyway.
Look at the actual specs on some of these HM's side by side with the standard of said company - go from there.
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