The '02 Aerostar has had a nasty spark type knock for a while. Am running premium. Have run Neutra 1oz/gallon for six months (maybe 3500 miles) and still see heavy carbon in the tailpipe. The F150 ('95 4.9L) has traveled about the same distance (more highway miles though) and on same Neutra regime and it's dirty tailpipe is looking pretty clean now. So, I surmise the Aerostar was far worse and the Neutra eventually will get it cleaned up, but why wait. Maybe it needs an intake fog? Water, MMO, SeaFoam, Intake Cleaner (have an aerosol can of this on hand), what???? Any advice?
Should I fog the Aerostar--big carbon buildup and knock
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Gary's "brew" has worked for me! Mix in 20 gallons of gasoline the following:
1 quart of MMO
2 quarts of ATF
Then, once you're through that tank, mix in 20 gallons of gasoline the following:
1 quart of MMO
In my F250 and in my wife's Explorer it has made a very noticeable difference with no negative side effects. Note that the F250 is a carbed, non-cat version and, of course, the Explorer is fuel injected and has a cat.
I'll bet you'll notice a BIG difference, a positive one.
I want to add that longer term solutions appear to be the ARX and the LC/FP routes.
1 quart of MMO
2 quarts of ATF
Then, once you're through that tank, mix in 20 gallons of gasoline the following:
1 quart of MMO
In my F250 and in my wife's Explorer it has made a very noticeable difference with no negative side effects. Note that the F250 is a carbed, non-cat version and, of course, the Explorer is fuel injected and has a cat.
I'll bet you'll notice a BIG difference, a positive one.
I want to add that longer term solutions appear to be the ARX and the LC/FP routes.
I have only been reading this forum since April. Yet, every time I get in my truck it FEELs like it runs better than the week before. More pep, smoother reving. My mileage has gone up too. I used to get 17-17.5mpg, now I get 18.5-19mpg. The truck is at 150k and I am sure it has another 100k in it.
The funny thing is, I have not used any additives. Heck, I have not even changed the oil since March. I did put a little air in the tires (they were about 5psi low). I also quit driving 80mph (I try to limit it to 70mph).
The funny thing is, I have not used any additives. Heck, I have not even changed the oil since March. I did put a little air in the tires (they were about 5psi low). I also quit driving 80mph (I try to limit it to 70mph).
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be careful! My son bent a rod sucking water from a bottle through a vacuum hose. It is a 1990 Nissan 300zx.
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Well, you're missing out on half the fun, Winston. Imagine ....if you used additives and changed your oil.....you would probably be able to imagine 21.8 mpg and velveteen smoothness out of your engine ..turbine like revving ...and the confidence of all those unleashed, and hidden, horses under the hood.
Oh yeah, baby! Oh yeah! You know what I'm talkin' about.quote:
Originally posted by Gary Allan:
Well, you're missing out on half the fun, Winston. Imagine ....if you used additives and changed your oil.....you would probably be able to imagine 21.8 mpg and velveteen smoothness out of your engine ..turbine like revving ...and the confidence of all those unleashed, and hidden, horses under the hood.
TallPaul, use some of those PepBoys coupons you have for free Chevron Techron Concentrate and use several bottles of them. It costs you nothing!
Big O Dave, You're wayyyyyy to happy without additives! If you used LC and FP, one could only imagine how blissful you will feel!
Big O Dave, You're wayyyyyy to happy without additives! If you used LC and FP, one could only imagine how blissful you will feel!
TNS, I AM using additives... it just tickled me to read Gary's description... it's so accurate!
The MMO deal sounds like fun, but ATF at the same time? It would be fun driving down the road with a big white cloud out the back all the time, but my wife probably would not be amused. And I actually was hoping to do the driveway spray/white cloud thing. What can I put in one of those plastic squirter bottles that would not eat the plastic? Water. What about water spray. That is supposed to be very good at removing carbon, right? Won't hydrolock with a spray bottle like that and revving it good. I just may give the water a shot this weekend when the engine is good and hot.
So far, no smoke of any kind has been emitted from my wife's Explorer.
As for my F250, we've only noticed one big puff of white smoke, and since then, nothing.
I wonder if different vehicles react differently... or if the more "carbonaceous" build up, the more smoke... anybody know?
As for my F250, we've only noticed one big puff of white smoke, and since then, nothing.
I wonder if different vehicles react differently... or if the more "carbonaceous" build up, the more smoke... anybody know?
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I only know that with just the 32oz mmo dose ..no smoke ...that and two quarts of ATF ..a mild vapor trailed the van. I may have had substantial coak deposits that were being liberated from the back of the valves that had the bad valve seals. When the heads were pulled, I expected to see a mess on the exhaust vavles. They were sooted ..but it was very soft soot...nothing that a mild spin on the wire wheel didn't remove. It was easily disturbed.
Tall Paul ..if you're up for it ..and want some fun...run a length of PCV hose through the cowl and into the passenger compartment through the window. Mix any cocktail that you please and hit the highway. Get going about 60 or so ..and shove the hose into the jug of the cocktail. If you use anything like ATF (keep in mind that Terry has advised against this)...be prepared for a massive smoke screen behind you. You may want to choose the traffic conditions wisely. People will assume that you have mechanical problems and that you're driving a POS ..but due to the thickness of the cloud (assuming your vacuum is enough to draw it in fast enough) ..visibility can be truly compromised behind you.
Naturally, water can be used in this manner too.
Tall Paul ..if you're up for it ..and want some fun...run a length of PCV hose through the cowl and into the passenger compartment through the window. Mix any cocktail that you please and hit the highway. Get going about 60 or so ..and shove the hose into the jug of the cocktail. If you use anything like ATF (keep in mind that Terry has advised against this)...be prepared for a massive smoke screen behind you. You may want to choose the traffic conditions wisely. People will assume that you have mechanical problems and that you're driving a POS ..but due to the thickness of the cloud (assuming your vacuum is enough to draw it in fast enough) ..visibility can be truly compromised behind you.
Naturally, water can be used in this manner too.
The while driving idea posted is a good idea. Load is good, as is just moving in the vehicle. I have personally never gotten water to work, but I would suggest it because it is much cheaper. Run it first, then try something else if you don't like the results.
Hot Dang I'm SOLD!! I think I'll go do a few laps around the Wal*Mart parking lot while I clean my innards. "Hey Darlin', need a ride?"
Nice idea. I think water would be the way to go--maybe ice water. I will stay out of overdrive so it revs higher. Maybe about a quart would do it. Should be fun. If that works, the motor home is next.
Im guessing since the car is moving this wont hydrolock the engine right.
I know you shouldnt do this in your driveway with the car idling, unless you dont like your engine.
For an idiling vehicle pour VERY slow, im not sure about a moving one
I know you shouldnt do this in your driveway with the car idling, unless you dont like your engine.
For an idiling vehicle pour VERY slow, im not sure about a moving one
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Here's what's in it. Looks rather complex ..but it does say that it's a combo of high octane fuel ..so many of the components that we see here are probably much of that make up.
Ingredient C.A.S. No. % by Wt
TOLUENE 108-88-3 10 - 30
2,2,4-TRIMETHYLPENTANE 540-84-1 10 - 30
ISOHEPTANE 31394-54-4 7 - 13
OLEIC ACID 112-80-1 7 - 13
XYLENE 1330-20-7 7 - 13
WATER 7732-18-5 5 - 10
DIACETONE ALCOHOL 123-42-2 3 - 7
4-METHYL-2-PENTANOL 108-11-2 3 - 7
2-BUTOXYETHANOL 111-76-2 1 - 5
ISOOCTANE 26635-64-3 1 - 5
ETHANOLAMINE 141-43-5 1 - 5
ETHYLBENZENE 100-41-4 < 3
NITROGEN 7727-37-9 0.5 - 1.5
BENZENE 71-43-2 < 0.1
Ingredient C.A.S. No. % by Wt
TOLUENE 108-88-3 10 - 30
2,2,4-TRIMETHYLPENTANE 540-84-1 10 - 30
ISOHEPTANE 31394-54-4 7 - 13
OLEIC ACID 112-80-1 7 - 13
XYLENE 1330-20-7 7 - 13
WATER 7732-18-5 5 - 10
DIACETONE ALCOHOL 123-42-2 3 - 7
4-METHYL-2-PENTANOL 108-11-2 3 - 7
2-BUTOXYETHANOL 111-76-2 1 - 5
ISOOCTANE 26635-64-3 1 - 5
ETHANOLAMINE 141-43-5 1 - 5
ETHYLBENZENE 100-41-4 < 3
NITROGEN 7727-37-9 0.5 - 1.5
BENZENE 71-43-2 < 0.1
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