Shell Helix Ultra Professional AG 5W-30

[kschachn]

And as an aside, is there even any technical substance to the "Ferrari approval" or is it merely a marketing agreement? I have never seen any specifics to this supposed approval.

Not that it really matters I guess. If I had such an expensive vehicle I'd just go to the dealer for the oil, assuming I was even changing it myself in the first place

 

[chris719]

And as an aside, is there even any technical substance to the "Ferrari approval" or is it merely a marketing agreement? I have never seen any specifics to this supposed approval.

Not that it really matters I guess. If I had such an expensive vehicle I'd just go to the dealer for the oil, assuming I was even changing it myself in the first place

I think it's something. When the regular PP Euro lost the Ferrari "approval" they actually introduced this PP Racing 5W-40 with the Ferrari approval. Apparently this is what Ferrari dealers stock now according to their forums. Maybe it's the same oil or the old formula, who knows.

https://www.shell-livedocs.com/data/published/en-US/0d2a7349-5baf-4a56-8deb-395ec19c699d.pdf

 

[f355spider]

And as an aside, is there even any technical substance to the "Ferrari approval" or is it merely a marketing agreement? I have never seen any specifics to this supposed approval.

Not that it really matters I guess. If I had such an expensive vehicle I'd just go to the dealer for the oil, assuming I was even changing it myself in the first place

There has been a technical exchange/partnership (and marketing) with the companies since the 1990s. Shell even has a portable lab during F1 testing and races to evaluate fuel and oil. Shell has posted about the collaboration in their advertising:
https://www.shell.com/about-us/shell-motorsport/shell-and-ferrari/shells-role-in-the-race.html

https://www.shell.com/about-us/shell-motorsport/shell-and-ferrari/from-racetrack-to-roadside.html

There are Shell fluids specified for coolant, transaxle, brake, power steering and F1 hydraulics. I don't know that any of them are special to Ferrari. The only one I hear negatives about on the forums is the brake fluid. If not changed at least every two years, it can gel and solidify and a mess to flush out. Many independent service providers will substitute with an alternate brake fluid not prone to this problem.

 

[Jerrysends]

Shell Helix (aka PP euro/QS euro) doesn't seem to be causing any engine failures. Likely one of the best oils on the market.

 

[Averroes]

I’ve tried PP Euro LX 0w30 and the Euro L 5w30 for the 370z. Used them both for 4-5k kilometres.

Honestly the engine could not tell the difference between the two nor could I. Never did a VOA or UOA either. But from what I know, they both had great approvals so I had no qualms on using them.

 

[FlyingTexan]

Don’t forget QS Euro. It’s 5w40 with a HTHS I believe of 3.88. Pennzoil Euro L is low SAPS and QS Euro is high SAPS. So they’re not identical. PE is BMW LL04 and QS E is LL01.

I ran Mobile 1 in my 17 LR Discovery TD6 then switched to Penzoil Euro L and it ran smoother on the PE. My B58 BMW motor was very happy on the QS Euro. Still have two jugs in the garage and would run it in anything.