Seriously, why no love/support for Brad-Penn oil?

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Originally Posted By: addyguy
True - they are basically a 'niche blender' that will never do serious volume.

I'm really curious just how much oil is left in those Pa fields after 100 or so years....just how long will this operation last?


I think it is a hockey stick curve think. Most of the oil is long gone, but it will continue a slow dribble for a long time.
 
Originally Posted By: OilNerd
Originally Posted By: rshunter
Pennzoil is no longer, in the strict sense, an "American" company . It is a brand of Royal Dutch Shell, which is an Anglo-Dutch conglomerate. You know, more of those European guys...


As long as these "European guys" put their funny-colored money here and help keep dinner on the table for Americans, I don't have a problem with them. Don't think you'll hear a lot of Dutch in Port Arthur, TX.

Hey, I'm not complaining, just correcting an error of fact. At one time I worked for Royal Dutch Shell. Besides, look at the partial list of vehicles I own, below. Does it look like I have an issue with European companies?
 
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
True - they are basically a 'niche blender' that will never do serious volume.

I'm really curious just how much oil is left in those Pa fields after 100 or so years....just how long will this operation last?


I think it is a hockey stick curve think. Most of the oil is long gone, but it will continue a slow dribble for a long time.


It would seem to be more than a dribble, to be engaged in ANY kind of fuel production - you need pretty serious crude output for that.

I'd guess that advanced recovery techniques have brought these wells back to 'like new' condition, and Amref is just taking advantage of an opp. others didn't want to see - they already had it in their heads that these were 'old wells' that were long-done.....
 
While the reserves figure has varied over the past few years, the production rate for PA crude (from PA) has been a flat 2million barrels a year for a 10 year stretch.

That's if I'm interpreting this data correctly. They may lump WV in there.
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http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_pres_dcu_spa_a.htm
 
I have recommended it in the past where high levels of ZDDP were called for. However, it is a conventional oil that costs as much as the premium synthetics so I don't see any advantage to using it or recommending it more than the occassional time I do. Doesn't mean I think it is bad oil as I actually think it is very good. Just doesn't make sense when for the same approx money you can get a premium synthetic.
 
Originally Posted By: rshunter

Hey, I'm not complaining, just correcting an error of fact. At one time I worked for Royal Dutch Shell. Besides, look at the partial list of vehicles I own, below. Does it look like I have an issue with European companies?


Fair enough. My mistake.
 
Originally Posted By: OilNerd
Originally Posted By: rshunter

Hey, I'm not complaining, just correcting an error of fact. At one time I worked for Royal Dutch Shell. Besides, look at the partial list of vehicles I own, below. Does it look like I have an issue with European companies?


Fair enough. My mistake.


No sweat, man.
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BTW, I've been to Plattsburgh, beautiful area in the fall! I'll admit that I never imagined it had an airport, international or otherwise, too...
 
Originally Posted By: OilNerd
Originally Posted By: rshunter

Hey, I'm not complaining, just correcting an error of fact. At one time I worked for Royal Dutch Shell. Besides, look at the partial list of vehicles I own, below. Does it look like I have an issue with European companies?


Fair enough. My mistake.


Dude! Your not far from me!! Glad to have another REAL upstate NYer on board!
 
I am getting a case of their 0w30 formula and a case of their 20w50 Moto oil soon. Im paying 4.19 a quart which is not bad for the add pack you get. That is only a little more than standard GTX at the local auto stores.
 
I saw Gulf branded oil recently at a Shoprite store in Rockland County NY. I forget the price but it wasn't too bad if I recall correctly.
 
I like what the website says about the 0w30 and 10w30 race but does is have a good detergent pack. Being a race type oil I dont know if that would be needed. Arnt race engine rebuilt on a very regular basis like several times a season?
 
After further searching I did find some internet info that listed Brad Penn Grade 1 as having a zddp of 1,200ppm, a heavy detergent package and some oilclinging formulation (for cold start).

Honestly it does sound interesting.
 
They don't seem to have very good market penetration. I live probably less than 100 miles from their refinery (driven past it several times on the PA/NY219), and I've rarely seen it here. Even the local Gulf station carries only 5W-20 Gulf oil with the rest being some Warren badged stuff.

If I had access to their oils, I'd probably use it...
 
Some of guys use the Brad Penn in their circle track cars here in the St. Louis Area. Just a FYI for you guys, the green is just a dye as per the rep at American Refining Group. Also on the marketing side of things, I have heard that they are removing "Racing Oil" from the label to broaden the usage.

also, just thought it was funny, but we actually had a case of it return to us because it was NOT green!!!

We carry much higher grades of oil than Brad Penn, but a large amount of our customers have good luck with the Brad Penn!

Joe
 
Brad Penn advertises in a muscle car magazine I read.

"The Green Oil"

I would use Brad Penn Oil if it was available in my area. I haven't seen it since moving from Connecticut.
 
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