Yeah they're honestly bad. Frankly there's almost no diesel vehicle that I would buy over something with a big gas engine unless I absolutely needed a pickup truck to tow 15k+ lbs routinely. But I would never buy a car or suv with a diesel these days. I was first offered a 3.0 V6 duramax Escalade before buying my 6.2 one but I declined on it because I had a gut feeling it was going to be a piece of junk and it's designed terribly when you look at it. Now gm is discontinuing it and I'm for it.OR-it could be these (diesel) vans are absolutely garbage-because they are.