It is VW, no one mentions that.
Actually kinda cool looking. 350 miles, but extended to 500 with a gas gennie? Seems odd, ~350 miles is how far I can go in my Tacoma so I wouldn't bother.
Scout EV debuted today!
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Actually kinda cool looking. 350 miles, but extended to 500 with a gas gennie? Seems odd, ~350 miles is how far I can go in my Tacoma so I wouldn't bother.
Did not watch the video. I wonder how that works? With big fat tires and a large footprint, I have to think this thing must need 10-20hp to motor down the road. 20hp is 15kW, ignoring losses... and who knows if that is 150 miles of highway or city.
Thing is, wouldn't this generator have to meet EPA standards for a vehicle, not for stationary engine? Catalyst and all? I'm guessing it's bolted in and hard to remove. BUT--if it was a 15kW genset, could this be a nice home generator? Back Scout of garage, run a cord (to one's transfer switch), done. If it's a good catalyst, then far less worries about CO poisoning (I can't believe how smelly my quite new invertor is). Maybe the Scout can cycle the generator, charging its main battery as needed.
[Don't get me wrong. Way cheaper for me to buy a beater car and a generator or two. Just letting my mind wander this morning. I still want a bigger generator for this winter, my invertor won't run the well pump.]
Tesla will have to install a real dashboard, most people knew the touch screen fad was a stupid idea right from the get go and belongs in the same trash bin as the seat belt interlocking systems. For nav and radio that should be about all they are used for.
FYI.. a hybrid model is planned.
Just like the original!
I would think making an engine to be efficient and clean burning at a narrow rpm range and power output for maximum efficiency might end up being fairly cheap and simple? Having the huge battery to absorb and moderate power output should be good for that.
Ultra expensive??? $200K+???
Should be. Only has to run at full tilt, whether that is 2,400rpm or 6,300rpm. Since the loading of the engine is 100% controlled by software, it can spool up, develop full oil pressure, maybe a bit of heat (and thus ward off any BITOG-inspired hand wringing), then work under 100% loading for maximum efficiency (100%, 90%, whatever load/rpm/fuel flow so as to get max % of fuel to electrical energy). All output goes to charging the battery, when the battery is charged (or charged to good enough), shut off. Turn on at say 10%, off at 90%, that way it gets warm and only operates warm--constant cycling on/off might have issues staying warm / avoiding starting emissions. Maybe--pure conjecture on my part. Toyota manages, but those engines are what, 100hp plus? pretty big compared to what I'm envisioning here.
Only thing is, efficiency tends to scale with size. It's small so it might not rival a larger engine. Still. It likely does not need 4 valves per cylinder, VVT, 3 miles of timing chain, V bank design, etc. Might have to be I4 for NVH? not sure if I3 is better. I2? Might wind up with more mass in the counter weights than in the rest of the engine, no idea. But could be small.
Wankel rotary maybe? now that is a stretch. But it's Friday and I'd rather be guessing than working.
I love the whole concept. From door handles to actual switches on the dashboard. It screams utility. Love it.
When I saw all that utility I was expecting a lower price point so it's just another EV that I am priced out of. I guess the fact remains that it's just not possible to produce vehicles like this in an EV version because of the cost of the battery. Meaning, even a new upstart can not beat the established companies at price.
Another shout out for South Carolina. The state exports more cars than anyplace else in the country! New and old businesses locating here. Its future bright do to being business friendly. I loved that state for the 16 years that we lived there, too bad our new home is 4 miles over the border but that was a community lifestyle choice.
When I saw all that utility I was expecting a lower price point so it's just another EV that I am priced out of. I guess the fact remains that it's just not possible to produce vehicles like this in an EV version because of the cost of the battery. Meaning, even a new upstart can not beat the established companies at price.
Another shout out for South Carolina. The state exports more cars than anyplace else in the country! New and old businesses locating here. Its future bright do to being business friendly. I loved that state for the 16 years that we lived there, too bad our new home is 4 miles over the border but that was a community lifestyle choice.
I hate government intrusion but I agree with that one if it comes to be. Touch screen for all functions is a cheap cop-op that people think is fancy. Your driving a vehicle and crazy to have to go through screens for specific functions while you are trying to drive, then bone jarring rough roads or physically challenged people make it even worse. Physical buttons increase cost but the increase cannot be so costly to affect car price. Lack of buttons is sell the sizzle but it makes no sense.
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So now an EV has to beat an equivalent ICE? Look out Charlie Brown..
Scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My wife loves the thing.
Hhahhahaha dang it
My wife loves the thing.
Hhahhahaha dang it
It's a style for my wife too. She likes the higher boxy LandCruiser type vehicles. Utility look, not frilly girly stuff.
The Tesla tablet interface is not for everyone, but once you are used to it, at least for me, it beats the snot outta tons of buttons, dials, etc. I find out 2 Lexi dashes overly complicated; even confusing. You have to take your eyes off the road to find stuff too often.
I rarely use the touch screen; I use voice commands. Manual buttons are old skool. Not bad, just old skool.
Many people struggle with the interface; you even see some drivers stopped at the side of the road trying to figure the dang thing out. Then again young people, who grew up with tablets and cell phones, take to the interface naturally.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm not going back.
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Exactly, choice is good. The E/U might change you back to buttons if it catches on here. Though that wont happen with the influence Tesla will have for the next 4 years.
Give me a touch screen for functions but dont make me change screens for everyday operation. It's what I loved about BMWs however they have been having a tug of war with themselves on the subject.
Just like clothing, styles change, what is in today, is out tomorrow, if you want to look cool, you go with the trend.
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That's great but the reference to the tablet was E/U is possibly going to require physical controls not personal preference.
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Looks awesome and a gasoline range extender is a great idea.
If I had the extra dough I'd do it but I wouldn't want to be a beta tester with it as my primary vehicle.
If I had the extra dough I'd do it but I wouldn't want to be a beta tester with it as my primary vehicle.
