Saved a Man's Life Today.

[doitmyself]

ekpolk,

You seem to be really high.....from a successful battle. My sincere congratulations to you and what you do.

You sound like a diamond in the rough, and your candid admittance that the justice system is in disarray brings much respect from me.

When I read postings such as Oldmoparguy's (no disrespect),it is easy to pick out that they have never had to go through a serious judicial issue.

I have said it here several times, but most people have no idea how bad our justice system really is. It's beyond belief.

Thanks again for the caring work you perform.

 

[Audi Junkie]

Good work. I HATE liars. I've been on the wrong end of fabricated stories and really enjoy seeing people squirm when their stories don't hold water.

 

[robshelton]

OMG You are a jewel in the legal land of "Stinky mud." From what I have seen and experienced here in NC the defendant is guilty until proven innocent. Yes, I mean exactly what I typed. This state is highly punitive and as mentioned above, District Attorneys want to look tough on crime. I was (Unfortunately) involved in a case where the victim hired an attorney to assist the DA in the prosecution. Few facts were "Discovered" but there was a lot of mud slinging.

THANK YOU!

 

[rjacket]

Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Originally Posted By: rjacket
Based on the evidence above, the alleged victims had their credibility severely damaged ie they lied in their statements compared to their actions as recorded. Why was the defendant found guilty of anything?

Btw, not suggesting you didn't do a great job here, clearly you did.


No problem. My guy's problem was that he did indicate that, after they got out of the car, and came after him, he used some pretty harsh language on them too. Came through on the 911 recording. To me, he was clearly responding to their threats with bluffing counter threats, as in telling them he would kick their ----- if they didn't back off, as he was trying to cross the street to go the place where he sat and waited for the cops. Add to that the fact that he's a none-too-desirable homeless guy (we had him dressed up some, but still...) and you have a good recipe for a "split baby" verdict. Sure, I'd have preferred a straight acquittal, but I'll happily take this verdict all day long!

Let's rustle up some cash for a civil action for the homeless guy against that couple. He might end up sleeping in her Durango!

 

[ekpolk]

Originally Posted By: doitmyself
ekpolk,

You seem to be really high.....from a successful battle. My sincere congratulations to you and what you do.
. . .


Oh yeah, you got that right. No drugs involved, except for that cold beer I had when I came home. Boy, that one tasted good!
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Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Good work. I HATE liars. I've been on the wrong end of fabricated stories and really enjoy seeing people squirm when their stories don't hold water.


Hers was like a rusted out sieve...
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Originally Posted By: rjacket
...

Let's rustle up some cash for a civil action for the homeless guy against that couple. He might end up sleeping in her Durango!


Hmmmmmmmmmm. . .

 

[XS650]

Originally Posted By: rjacket
Based on the evidence above, the alleged victims had their credibility severely damaged ie they lied in their statements compared to their actions as recorded. Why was the defendant found guilty of anything?



Because he was a homeless person. He was lucky he had EK on his side, it could have gone a lot worse for him.

 

[rjacket]

Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: rjacket
Based on the evidence above, the alleged victims had their credibility severely damaged ie they lied in their statements compared to their actions as recorded. Why was the defendant found guilty of anything?



Because he was a homeless person. He was lucky he had EK on his side, it could have gone a lot worse for him.


I guess I'm still naive as I was born and lived in the UK most of my life where generally people are fairer by nature. I suppose there are some things in the movies people should believe about the US! (Play harmonica ............)

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Good work. I HATE liars. I've been on the wrong end of fabricated stories and really enjoy seeing people squirm when their stories don't hold water.

+1

You do need a good memory if you tell the truth all the time.

 

[Gary Allan]

Bravo!

 

[oilboy123]

I really appreciate my attorney that probably saved me from possibly getting turned into Bubbu's lover. I could have been stabbed in prison as well. Long story......

My family attorney before my Criminal attorney was really horrible. I had to initially sign up for a Public Defender who told me to plead guilty??? This was to something I did not do.
I know that people bash on lawyers but My Criminal attorney was brilliant. Saved my bacon and was very expensive.

There are bad attorneys as well as bad prosecutors. I had a bad prosecutor who would not drop my case even though all the evidence would show my innocence. My Attorney then proceeded to slice and dice through his case, made the prosecutor look really pathetic.

I am always surprised how easily people assume guilt about another person just based on an accusation.
Glad your case worked in favor of the person who was innocent.

 

[oilboy123]

Originally Posted By: doitmyself
ekpolk,

You seem to be really high.....from a successful battle. My sincere congratulations to you and what you do.

You sound like a diamond in the rough, and your candid admittance that the justice system is in disarray brings much respect from me.

When I read postings such as Oldmoparguy's (no disrespect),it is easy to pick out that they have never had to go through a serious judicial issue.

I have said it here several times, but most people have no idea how bad our justice system really is. It's beyond belief.

Thanks again for the caring work you perform.


Did not see this till after I posted and did a refresh. I like to say if our justice system is the best in the world, God help us.

+1

 

[Audi Junkie]

Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Good work. I HATE liars. I've been on the wrong end of fabricated stories and really enjoy seeing people squirm when their stories don't hold water.

+1

You do need a good memory if you tell the truth all the time.


That's exactly the case. Many of these compulsive liars are not very good at it. They seem used to their stories finding acceptance (among their peers) and they go unchallenged. The lies are therefore only one "layer" deep, and come apart when challenged.

I don't know if it's true in an absolute sense, but it is virtually impossible to get away with lying in a courtroom setting, that is when compelled to answer ~tricky~ questions from someone who has done their homework.

My citizen's group just won a case against our corrupt township this week. Nothing huge, but it was a big deal to us. The twp officials used the garbage billing as a tool to plunder money from some of us who did not wish to use the service, while exempting other residents whom they favoured. It was long contested, but it was resolved in court on the basis that they set their own precedent when they exempted people. They forfeited the ability to enforce and collect when they did that. Small beans compared to the criminal case that this thread is about, but essentially the same in the sense of "fighting the good fight".

As an update to the older members here who may remember some of the issues we had with our township assisting our greedy neighbour, a real estate developer, who was trying to harass us out of our home to get our property. Well, that's in Federal court now, a conspiracy to deprive us of our property w/o due process. We did move out, but rather than sell we rented to the local motorcycle club.

I'll report back later.

 

[greenaccord02]

Good going, EKP - justice was served.

The part of this that I find particularly distasteful isn't the couple of liars or the system or the prosecutor, but the police. Had the reverse happened, and the homeless guy been the complainant, the cops would have showed up and said, "Break it up," and left. No way Mr. and Mrs. yuppie were going to jail... I cannot stand police and their prejudices. The guy spent 145 days in jail. If it were up to me, those cops would to have to compensate the man for his time to the tune of their salaries for that period.

I'm glad you were able to help him, but not as glad as he was I'm sure.

 

[Ursae_Majoris]

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
As an update to the older members here who may remember some of the issues we had with our township assisting our greedy neighbour, a real estate developer, who was trying to harass us out of our home to get our property. Well, that's in Federal court now, a conspiracy to deprive us of our property w/o due process. We did move out, but rather than sell we rented to the local motorcycle club.

I'll report back later.

You asked for a nice security deposit, right?

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: oilboy123
I am always surprised how easily people assume guilt about another person just based on an accusation.
Glad your case worked in favor of the person who was innocent.



That's a really Australian Phenomoenon.

"Where there's smoke, there's fire" means that as soon as an (always leaky) investigation starts, everyone knows about it, and has just enough evidence to be assured of guilt.

Takes a pretty big jury/judge to tell them all that they are wrong. Defence often starts with a presumption of guilt too, and works back from maximum.

Congratz ekpolk for you win, and for honestly representing an underdog.

 

[oilboy123]

My mentioning my Public Defender telling my to plead guilty was not to bash Public Defenders in any way. Without Public Defenders people like the gentleman you got off would be in a world of hurt. I commend you for doing what you do.

The Public Defender did let my Dad and I look at all the paperwork at the office. We ran to the copy store so we could copy everything we could. Though he said we could not do that. I think he felt sorry for me and left the paperwork in our possession. Bless him for that. Maybe they did not have the time to properly represent me on this case. I don't really know why he said plead guilty?

I was told I had to immediately obtain representation of an attorney. We were in the process of finding a private attorney at the time. But I had to pay $500 just to sign on the Public Defender even though I did not ever have him represent me? I was shocked that was a mandatory thing. We dumped him pretty quick after that. For an attorney and private investigator who specialized in the area I needed.

So my hats off to good attorneys and good prosecutors out there. There are good and bad people in everything.

 

[crinkles]

keep the [censored] honest.

at least the media wasn't involved, they have a way of disproportioning things.

down here two kids got suffocated due to a leaky gas appliance.

media basically assumed mother had gassed her kids to kill them.

until a few days later the cops and gas company made a statement that it was an accidental leak.

by then it was too late, she'd been dragged over the coals.

sad.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

Great job EK! ...er...GREAT job.

Standing for truth is a dying breed nowadays. It's refreshing to see someone stand tall for the meek.

 

[FL_Rob]

Yes, the couple seem to be very fearfull of the world internally,embodied in what they can physically see in the homeless man.Their fear turns to anger which morphs into aggression through a self bolstering mantra of exceptionalism
above all else .I see this quite frequently in the indignant stares of passerbys' for little more than saying 'The weather is nice today', at Walmart,just as a mild example,I get the "how dare you speak to me" puzzled look,and I'm far from homeless,very clean cut etc.,so I almost stop saying "hi" anymore.Getting back to the accused,he is so lucky he didn't lay a hand on them.It seems like the agenda was for for the couple to bait him into a fight,turn it political ,trying to pass legislation against the homeless in their community and it had to be in their hauty community because no one is stupid enough to leave the 'home turf' so-to-speak and try this NEAR the inner city.They would've been bludgeoned or worse.They were in their 'comfort zone',and their humanity was challenged,there is where the threat exists.

 

[Dave Hess]

oilboy123,

What were you charged with /arrested for ?
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In some area the homeless are unwanted pests like in Key West. The city is trying to get rid of them by arresting them for minor stuff, but it seems like more and more are headed to Margaritaville to enjoy the sunshine, sand, palm trees and occasional cold beer.