Right turn on red - go now!!

[Smcatub]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
My biggest pet-peeve is when getting off the freeway, we have 3 lanes

Left lane-left turn only
Middle lane-can turn left, go straight, or turn right
Right lane-right turn only

I usually use the middle lane to turn right. The cars in the right lane who are also turning right skip a lane during the turn and don't follow the dotted lines to keep in the right lane when turning, and the middle lane can turn right into the middle lane on the right. I don't know how many times I've had to slam on the brakes and lay on the horn for the idiots that fly into my lane during the turn. Just 3 days ago a guy did this in a huge SUV, he was on the phone (most of the people who do this are) and his car would have taken the front of my car off, I had to check when I got home (he left right away) if there were any scratches. Luckily there were none.


I lay on my horn but keep going in situations like that. So far nobody's hit me, unfortunately.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Marco620
If only we had to take and pass the Tuv driving examine in Germany here in N.America. Only about 20% would have licenses and with less bad drivers on the road we could drive faster and with less congestion. Driving is a privledge not a right and should be respected.


+1

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
Because half of them swing wide into the curb lane.

yep.

Two left turn lanes. I'm far left. Silver Saturn is next to me in left/center. I attempt to go from far left to far left but Saturn driver has a different idea about how this works and attempts to go from left center to far left.

I have no idea where he thought I was going.

We were on a one-way. I could not make a U-turn.
I could not turn any more left (south) without going head on into northbound traffic.

He still wailed on his horn screamed and gestured obscenely at me.

Fort Worth has one major traffic problem and it is that people do not have any idea where to go from a multiple left turn lane. Far left to far right seems popular. Center to far left etc...

On the right turns? If you are in the center of the intersection and you do not have a left arrow, you have to yield to all oncoming traffic. If I am making a right turn, I am oncoming traffic until I have made that right turn. Besides, I am going from far right to far right anyway.

One unpleasant looking passenger in a Monte Carlo displayed her displeasure with me sounding my horn as she cut in front of me (left turn to right lane) by displaying her backside. Real classy.

 

[6starprez]

I assume right turn on green arrow? I changed the picture a little bit. If no right green arrow, you must stop before turning, if you want to. In this same situation with other cars turning left, I got a ticket in January 2013 for failing to stop first before turning right. Ever since then, I make sure to stop before I go but I too hate when people in front of me don't go after stopping.

 

[exranger06]

I don't really have a problem with peope waiting for the green lgiht. It's the people who go right on red when there's a "no turn on red" sign at the intersection that bother me.

 

[DBMaster]

Waiting for the green light is inching into lowest common denominator driving territory. I used to see it regularly when I lived in South Fort Worth. Lots of LCD drivers in that area.

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Waiting for the green light is inching into lowest common denominator driving territory. I used to see it regularly when I lived in South Fort Worth. Lots of LCD drivers in that area.

EB-I20 service road to SB Bryant-Irvin is where my Saturn incident happened.

I35W and Seminary is another intersection where the lane you are in does not matter, it's an insane scramble for whatever lane you can get.

 

[DBMaster]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog
EB-I20 service road to SB Bryant-Irvin is where my Saturn incident happened.

I35W and Seminary is another intersection where the lane you are in does not matter, it's an insane scramble for whatever lane you can get.


I used to take the exit from SB I35 and turn right onto WB Sycamore School. This was a LONG time ago (1992). The two right lanes of the service road could turn right onto Sycamore School. Several times, turning from the middle lane I had to lay on the horn due to morons who couldn't keep to the right lane.

For the most part, drivers in this area are AWFUL about staying in the correct lane. It's probably that way everywhere, though.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I don't know how many times I've had to slam on the brakes and lay on the horn for the idiots that fly into my lane during the turn


What's the definition for doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

hotwheels


Problem is, what do you do? Do you swing like everyone else; or live with the fact that you'll get honked at while obeying the law? There is an intersection I go through which is poorly set up: off ramp, two left-only lanes at a light. You make the left turn onto three lanes. Only get this: the left most lane is to get back on the highway! So, if you are in the left lane on the off-ramp, you have to move right one lane. If you are right, well, most everyone drifts right also.

Asinine.

And, the lines are painted as I described.

*

Something that bugs me is when a single lane makes a turn onto a two lane. Half the traffic will swing wide and go to the outside lane. I'm 99% sure that isn't legit, but now that I type it out I'm left wondering.

 

[hotwheels]

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I don't know how many times I've had to slam on the brakes and lay on the horn for the idiots that fly into my lane during the turn


What's the definition for doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

hotwheels


Problem is, what do you do? Do you swing like everyone else; or live with the fact that you'll get honked at while obeying the law? There is an intersection I go through which is poorly set up: off ramp, two left-only lanes at a light. You make the left turn onto three lanes. Only get this: the left most lane is to get back on the highway! So, if you are in the left lane on the off-ramp, you have to move right one lane. If you are right, well, most everyone drifts right also.

Asinine.

And, the lines are painted as I described.

*

Something that bugs me is when a single lane makes a turn onto a two lane. Half the traffic will swing wide and go to the outside lane. I'm 99% sure that isn't legit, but now that I type it out I'm left wondering.


I choose the lesser of how many evils there are. We have intersections where two right turn lanes turn into 4 lanes right after the turn, and people do make crazy maneuvers. By taking the very right lane, I can prevent people from cutting in front of me from the middle or from the left lanes, simply because they don't do that, while the other three right lanes are up for grabs. Since I know it's likely that someone will cut me off if I take any of the three left lanes, I simply don't take these lanes. Instead I will later merge into the lane where I want or have to be.

hotwheels

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I don't know how many times I've had to slam on the brakes and lay on the horn for the idiots that fly into my lane during the turn


What's the definition for doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

hotwheels


Problem is, what do you do? Do you swing like everyone else; or live with the fact that you'll get honked at while obeying the law? There is an intersection I go through which is poorly set up: off ramp, two left-only lanes at a light. You make the left turn onto three lanes. Only get this: the left most lane is to get back on the highway! So, if you are in the left lane on the off-ramp, you have to move right one lane. If you are right, well, most everyone drifts right also.

Asinine.

And, the lines are painted as I described.

*

Something that bugs me is when a single lane makes a turn onto a two lane. Half the traffic will swing wide and go to the outside lane. I'm 99% sure that isn't legit, but now that I type it out I'm left wondering.
I really wonder what goes through the minds of those who design our streets.

Here's a Google Maps view of the intersection. Clearly painted lines where you're supposed to follow and the people in the right lane just merge over without a turn signal or waiting. Countless times I've almost had the front of the car taken off.

 

[DBMaster]

It's a sad statement, but we're at the point in history where we have to make our roads idiot-proof. Since that's an impossibility, we have to be on the lookout for those who lack skill, don't care, or are impaired in some way.

I hear from a number of people older than I am that they have issues seeing at night, even with factory HID headlamps. Heaven help us as the "silver tsunami" turns feeble.

 

[Benzadmiral]

Originally Posted By: mongo161
NYC....no right turns on the red anywhere....except when posted.

I can't imagine all of the pedestrian fatalities and injuries if people were allowed to make a right on the red at every intersection in NYC.

People would never be able to cross the street.

When I visited Manhattan in '98, I too was struck by the "NO Right Turn on Red" signs. Like you, I can see why they don't have them.

My hostess said the way to cross intersections in NYC was "Don't show fear."

 

[DBMaster]

Yeah, I've spent a fair amount of time walking around NYC. Having grown up in the DFW area I learned to be very cautious as a pedestrian. In NYC you cross no matter what if you have the walk signal. If you don't have the signal and see no cars you still cross. Around here they'll just stand around waiting for the signal even if there are no cars.