Resting magazine springs....

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Originally Posted By: billt460
I can't believe we're on an oil forum, and have so many guys questioning the value of using lubricant on a magazine?
Just because you're on an oil forum doesn't mean everything you own needs lube. Magazines, at least for the stuff I own, run 100% without oil. Adding lube would range from unnecessary or detrimental. Even my old school Marlin mag tubes are dry as a bone. Never been a problem.

Bill. What oil/grease do you use on your windshield wipers?
 
Originally Posted By: hatt
Magazines, at least for the stuff I own, run 100% without oil.


Big deal. So do mine. That means nothing of the fact they all run better with it. So I modestly lube them. If you like to run metal to metal bone dry, go for it. Just don't complain when it hangs up. And your windshield wiper analogy is beyond stupid.
 
Please explain how lubed mags run better than 100%? The only way to go from 100% is down. And that's what will happen with dirt collects in your lubed mag. I think you're one of the clean every time you shoot it folks. Lubed mags are fine for you guys. I rarely clean my Glocks or ARs since it's unnecessary and I'd rather shoot than clean.
 
Originally Posted By: hatt
Please explain how lubed mags run better than 100%? The only way to go from 100% is down. And that's what will happen with dirt collects in your lubed mag. I think you're one of the clean every time you shoot it folks.


You just answered your own question. Weapons and magazines ALWAYS run better when you clean and lubricate them. If you're tolerant of, and accept dirt, you're going to have the issues that go along with that. This really isn't that difficult to figure out. Clean and lubricated is always better than dry and dirty.

If you're too lazy to keep these things clean, then you're going to have no choice but to accept an occasional hang up. If you haven't yet, it's only because your luck hasn't run out. Not because of your superior operational methods, and or choices.
 
Originally Posted By: hatt
Just because you're on an oil forum doesn't mean everything you own needs lube.


EVERYTHING I own needs lube....even the wife now...
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I think that the argument is that a lubed magazine will collect dirt and get dirtier than a dry magazine, all else being equal.

If I knew I was going to be in a dirty environment, or knew that I had an extended shoot without opportunity to clean, I would prefer my magazines to be bone dry.

So, I personally keep my magazines clean and totally unlubricated. And, back to the OP, I keep my magazines loaded when they're sitting around the house. They're typically only empty for the trip home from the range, then they're loaded back up.
 
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: hatt
Please explain how lubed mags run better than 100%? The only way to go from 100% is down. And that's what will happen with dirt collects in your lubed mag. I think you're one of the clean every time you shoot it folks.


You just answered your own question. Weapons and magazines ALWAYS run better when you clean and lubricate them. If you're tolerant of, and accept dirt, you're going to have the issues that go along with that. This really isn't that difficult to figure out. Clean and lubricated is always better than dry and dirty.

If you're too lazy to keep these things clean, then you're going to have no choice but to accept an occasional hang up. If you haven't yet, it's only because your luck hasn't run out. Not because of your superior operational methods, and or choices.
Post up the owners manuals that say to lube mags. Glock tells you to make sure and wipe off any lube in the mag.

I don't constantly clean guns because they don't need it. Cleaning a Glock/AR/etc because you ran a hundred rounds through it is the equivalent of a 1000 mile OCI on a new Camry.
 
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Doog
EVERYTHING I own needs lube....even the wife now...
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How true!


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Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Its OK to lube a magazine as long as you wipe out all the lube before use. There should be no liquid lubricant left, just a smidgen of residual left behind.

All my mags/mag springs gets sprayed with Remoil from the aerosol can, and then wiped clean with an old t-shirt with no visible lube left behind. The teflon component left behind does seem to offer a smoother function of the follower.


I do the same procedure with RemOil on my magazines after disassembly. Helps protect them from corrosion on the inside, plus helps the follower slide a little easier. Have never had a problem doing it this way.
 
Originally Posted By: hatt
Post up the owners manuals that say to lube mags. I don't constantly clean guns because they don't need it. Cleaning a Glock/AR/etc because you ran a hundred rounds through it is the equivalent of a 1000 mile OCI on a new Camry.


If it will make you a happy man, run your guns and magazines dry and filthy. There is no need to try and validate it. You've got yourself convinced. It's not necessary to try to convince me.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
I do the same procedure with RemOil on my magazines. Helps protect them from corrosion on the inside, plus helps the follower slide a little easier. Have never had a problem doing it this way.


I do the same. About the only difference is I use Weapon Shield. I'm not concerned about corrosion because I live in a very dry climate. But I've found that any magazine follower will slide up and down much easier with a light coating of lube.
 
For what it's worth the main springs on most rifles and shotguns pretty much live in a compressed state, unless you dry fire them every time you unload. Most of those last decades without being replaced.

Springs will take a set after the first couple cycles but they shouldn't lose much tension after that until their service life is up.
 
Originally Posted By: totegoat
I'll take a re-look at some war surplus mags. Maybe they are salvageable.

They will be fine
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: totegoat
I'll take a re-look at some war surplus mags. Maybe they are salvageable.

They will be fine


Yes, they are fine, just not-reliable............Some feed and some don't.
 
I'll find out next time I go to the range if the Break Free CLP works or not on the mag and post back. It may have stuck partly due to the cheap Remington ammo.
 
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Originally Posted By: totegoat
I'll take a re-look at some war surplus mags. Maybe they are salvageable.


War time mags can use less than impressive spring steel. Sometimes they used whatever steel they could get their hands on, and not necessarily the best spring steel of the day. The BEST steels were probably diverted for use in aircraft engines, etc.

If you have war time surplus mags, they might be excellent mags with a new spring. I would replace any worn springs, clean em up and keep them.
 
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: totegoat
I'll take a re-look at some war surplus mags. Maybe they are salvageable.


War time mags can use less than impressive spring steel. Sometimes they used whatever steel they could get their hands on, and not necessarily the best spring steel of the day. The BEST steels were probably diverted for use in aircraft engines, etc.

If you have war time surplus mags, they might be excellent mags with a new spring. I would replace any worn springs, clean em up and keep them.


Thanks for the tip. Now all I have to do is find them.......
 
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