The government uses it. But they're looking to change it at six months if it's been ran more than 125 hours and regardless of hours at 1yr.
Rerefined motor oil?
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I would say cost.
Government using something is not always a indicator of best practice, just that they can mandate it and do not have to worry about the fiscal sense of it.
I'd run it but it seems hard to get it at anywhere near the cheaper than dirt bulk price. Might as well pay a little bit more and get new cheap 15w-40 from Walmart. Now if I could get recycled oil for say around half the price of delovac I'd be interested.
Now that yous guys mentioned it there might be a place that sells it straight out of the barrel, bring your own container style. Near me.
No point in paying for a jug and for someone to put that jug on a shelf everytime I buy oil.
The engines stay pretty clean on the inside.
The engine that had 1,344hr oil filter I cut open has been running that recycled oil. The oil, nobthe filter had been changed at least several times.
Right now, it's hard to find a motor oil on the shelf that doesn't have "synthetic" in the description. . That particular marketing term is well worn. Perhaps (in a few years) they'll start using "100% Virgin Base Stock" in their advertising. Or not.
Doubt 99% of oil buyers outside BITOG would even know what "100% Virgin Base Stock" is.
I guess if there's no functional difference, in meeting specs, testing, etc, then there's no difference? I don't think I've ever seen Safety Kleen on the shelf here, but if I do I might buy a jug to try in the Focus. It would be interesting to smell it, see if there is a difference? Rotella 15W40 smells a bit like gear oil when new, and used diesel oil has its own scent.
I did run a non rerefined recycled oil, in my old Neon, for its final OCI for a few months before it became a field car, it was the second batch of 50hr break in oil from my tractor, Rotella T6 5W40. The exhaust did smell a bit like a diesel the few years the Neon still ran and it didn't really burn that much oil as it was a pretty healthy engine, but eventually the transmission wouldn't shift and it went to the wreckers.
I did run a non rerefined recycled oil, in my old Neon, for its final OCI for a few months before it became a field car, it was the second batch of 50hr break in oil from my tractor, Rotella T6 5W40. The exhaust did smell a bit like a diesel the few years the Neon still ran and it didn't really burn that much oil as it was a pretty healthy engine, but eventually the transmission wouldn't shift and it went to the wreckers.
If it meets specs, grade, cost, etc why not?
I personally think they should just start including 5% in certain grades/weights similar to what’s done with biodiesel or ethanol.
The re-refined motor oil market looks large on paper but small compared to the overall.
Supposedly 50% of euro zone oil is re-refined, not sure how that works but they are already there. (It almost takes 2q used oil to get 1Q re-refined)
I personally think they should just start including 5% in certain grades/weights similar to what’s done with biodiesel or ethanol.
The re-refined motor oil market looks large on paper but small compared to the overall.
Supposedly 50% of euro zone oil is re-refined, not sure how that works but they are already there. (It almost takes 2q used oil to get 1Q re-refined)
They don't have to know. It's all about feelings. Like, who wouldn't want virgin base stock ?
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There is P66 Firebird .... I have never seen it anywhere on the shelf to try
I don't care whether it starts off as swamp gas, ground up asphalt or the contents of the waste oil tank at the Petro just as long as they produce a quality end product.
To get anything SL or better, especially in lighter grades (5W**), it almost needs to be a synthetic blend. Heavier weights (10W** & up), conventional can still be used. Honestly, synthetic is so cheap now, often times less than blend or conventional if you shop around a little, there’s really no reason not to use synthetic.
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So called rerefined or recycled oil should be cleaner and more pure than any synthetic with a crude base stock it’s brought back to life in a lab can’t get any more sterile than white coat. Should even be cleaner than pennzoil natural gas that’s if things are done right.
Valvoline white bottles still have a logo on the back that says something to the effect "NextGen Technology." I'm sure most will remember their NextGen oil line.
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At that price…I’d be changing the oil in my car a lot at work
I used re-refined motor oil in my oil burning '65 Comet. I'm not so sure about the quality of a re-refined product in those days. The exhaust had a distinctive sulfurous odour when I used the re-refined stuff and it consistently used more oil which I take to mean it wasn't staying in grade. But that oil was cheap and I was practically broke.
Today's technology is probably vastly better and used oil as the feed stock to make a quality motor oil sounds just fine.
Today's technology is probably vastly better and used oil as the feed stock to make a quality motor oil sounds just fine.
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Did that oil back then meet an api/ilsac spec?
I believe so. It was Canadian Tire's cheapest motor oil and I don't think they would go too far down-scale.
I expect a modern SN (or whatever) oil would be just fine. Not much difference starting the process off with a barrel of used oil or a barrel of crude. The barrel of used oil might even be better. Yes a true synthetic oil (meaning oil base stock made from natural gas) might be best of all, but then again maybe not.
How much of a history on this do you want?
We were one of the first two Breslube distributors in the world back in the 1980s. Breslube is now known as Kleen Performance Products, a division of CleanHarbors (Safety Kleen.)
And we owned & operated a small re-refinery in the late 2000’s through the mid 2010s.
We were one of the first two Breslube distributors in the world back in the 1980s. Breslube is now known as Kleen Performance Products, a division of CleanHarbors (Safety Kleen.)
And we owned & operated a small re-refinery in the late 2000’s through the mid 2010s.
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