I replaced the oem tires on one new purchase and I am not one to waste money. A new 2008 Silverado with some absolutely terrible Goodyear Wrangler (LS?) oem tires. They had extremely poor traction with even the suggestion of a damp road. After a couple of hundred miles of use, I replaced them and received a solid trade in offer from my usual tire store. They do a high volume of sales and likely have people who will quickly buy nearly new tires to resell.
Replacing OEM tires right away. Whats your opinion
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Lots of people online seemed to hate the OE tires on our Outback, and I thought about making new tires part of the deal but didn't in the end. Anyways, the OE tires turned out to be fine IMO. Even worked pretty good in the snow for a couple months when we first got the car. I think they will be a 50k mile tire but that's fine as they are starting to get a bit noisier as they approach 40k miles. They aren't an off road tire for sure, but for logging roads they have been fine for us.
On our 2003 Tracker the OE tires were uniroyal tiger paws and were pretty bad on anything but dry pavement, and they are the worst rated tires I've ever seen with B traction and C temperature.... Of course they wore like iron and at 60k miles with over 1/2 the tread depth left we ditched them.
On our 2003 Tracker the OE tires were uniroyal tiger paws and were pretty bad on anything but dry pavement, and they are the worst rated tires I've ever seen with B traction and C temperature.... Of course they wore like iron and at 60k miles with over 1/2 the tread depth left we ditched them.
I think 95 Prism comes with Invictas not Integrity (I have a 95 Corolla), Invictas are POS and should be burnt in the cement plants, Integrities are below average but tolerable.
Yeah the Goodyear Invictas are those B traction C temperature, wear like iron yet you replace them because they vibrates the car at 70mph out of balance tire.
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I have done it and sold the take offs for a good price and the new owner was thrilled too.
What came with my truck was horrible in the snow and rain.
The OE tyres on my car weren't terrible, Pirelli Cinturato P7. Not as good as UHP tyres in the grip department, but better than any ECO tyre I ever drove on. Decent enought grip in the wet but a bit snsitive to aquaplaning.
But I got my hands on a free set of as new Hankook Ventus Prime 2, OE tyres from a Hyundai. Those were terrible in the wet, though high resistance to aquaplaning. They were noticeably worse than the pirellis in the dry too.
Both the crossclimates and the Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2 I got afterwards had more grip wet and dry as either above.
If the P7 scored 100% as the baseline, both wet and dry this is what the others scored (car has a G-meter, so no seat of pants impressions):
Ventus Prime 2: 90% dry, 80% wet
crossclimates: 100% dry, 110% wet
v12: 105% dry, 115% wet
So, I don't think it's crazy or wasteful at all if performance matters to you. It matters to me so the ventus prime2 are going in the bin part used.
But I got my hands on a free set of as new Hankook Ventus Prime 2, OE tyres from a Hyundai. Those were terrible in the wet, though high resistance to aquaplaning. They were noticeably worse than the pirellis in the dry too.
Both the crossclimates and the Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2 I got afterwards had more grip wet and dry as either above.
If the P7 scored 100% as the baseline, both wet and dry this is what the others scored (car has a G-meter, so no seat of pants impressions):
Ventus Prime 2: 90% dry, 80% wet
crossclimates: 100% dry, 110% wet
v12: 105% dry, 115% wet
So, I don't think it's crazy or wasteful at all if performance matters to you. It matters to me so the ventus prime2 are going in the bin part used.
Yeah you can make somebody really happy selling some cheap take offs.
I was at the wal-mart waiting for a key cut (mistake of course) These people were giving the tire guy trouble because "I got a tires for $65, why are these [different size and brand] $80?" People are struggling out there.
I got rid of my factory Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S after 7,000 miles. The TireRack reviews indicated I'm nearly already halfway worn on the tires... for a Buy 3, Get 1 free deal on Michelin CC2's.
But, on a lease, if it means you're happier with the lease experience... by all means... it's your money.
But, on a lease, if it means you're happier with the lease experience... by all means... it's your money.
Goodyear OEM passenger tires seem to be crap.
The Eagle GA's were crap, which came factory on my parent's 93 Caravan. Replaced real quick with Michelin X-radials.
The Eagle LS-II were crap, that VW had to issue a TSB on its wear. Fortunately, I got lucky and avoided them on 2 VW's (Michelin Energy MXV4 and Pirelli P6's)
My parent's old 94 Corolla DX came with Michelin's (I think they were the XGT4, back when Michelin liked using triangular tread blocks)
Had those on the new '08 Yaris sedan base . Horrible in rain . Replaced them not long after the purchase .
I think it's a silly waste of money, but the last time I bought a new car was in 1995 and they had Made in USA tires on them new. If buying a new car with Chinese tires, I might have second thoughts about that.
I think they were eeplaced with CONTINENATAL Pro Contact Eco Plus , great tires for rain .
I like the idea if one leases. Just store the tires and put them back on when you turn in the car.
Oops , replaced .
I have 45,000 miles (so far) on an OEM set of 20" Goodyear Eagle LS2's... on a 2017 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4, with the Max Trailering package.
Yes, Eagle LS2's on a 4x4 pickup, with a Max Trailering package.
No, I have no idea who the totally stoned employee was at GM, who signed off on this bad idea. But they did it anyway.
I'm not going to say that it has been a good experience.... but it hasn't been nearly as bad as I expected it to be.
Yes, Eagle LS2's on a 4x4 pickup, with a Max Trailering package.
No, I have no idea who the totally stoned employee was at GM, who signed off on this bad idea. But they did it anyway.
I'm not going to say that it has been a good experience.... but it hasn't been nearly as bad as I expected it to be.
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Nothing wrong with it, as long as YOU feel that there is a good valid reason. I did that once when I was living in NYC back in the late 90’s. My new car came with summer tires and I have no storage space for two sets of tires. I switched them out to a set of all-seasons and gave the stock summer tires to a friend that winter.
Just an FYI (I'm surprised I haven't posted on this thread yet!):
OE tires - the ones that comes on new cars from the assembly plant - are designed to specs written by the vehicle manufacturer (not the tire manufacturer) and are unique to that particular vehicle. That is, not only is that tire different than any other tire even if the name is EXCATLY the same, even in the same model, a different tire size would mean it is NOT the same.
OE tires are spec'd for fuel economy as one of the, if not THEE, most important thing about the tire. The tire manufacturers have to sacrifice treadwear and/or traction (especially wet traction) to get those fuel economy numbers and the OEM knows this before the process even starts.
That means that replacing those OE tires is going to result in a fuel economy loss. And if you are replacing worn out OE tires, it's an even bigger hit!
PLUS, OE tires do NOT come with a treadwear warranty, even if one is displayed on tire dealer and tire manufacturer websites. That's because the OEM doesn't BUY the warranty when they purchase tires.
Some odd things: I once saw a tire manufacturer supply 5 different OE tires in the same size/make/model with the only outward difference being the marking required by the OEM (BMW = a star, Jaguar = J, Mercedes = MO, etc.) Each of those would have been different than the other 4. That meant that Tire Rack had 5 different listings with an indication as to which car they went on.
Some dealers/distributors will change out the tires that come from the assembly plant. This is particularly true for Toyotas. The tires those dealers/distributors apply are ALL AFTERMARKET tires and the Monroney sticker (the one on the side window with the fuel economy numbers) MAY be wrong (too high!) I am not sure how this works if the OE tires are replaced.
And lastly, once a tire is no longer supplied to an OEM, it is frequently redesigned to aftermarket specs and you can't get the OE tire anymore.
OE tires - the ones that comes on new cars from the assembly plant - are designed to specs written by the vehicle manufacturer (not the tire manufacturer) and are unique to that particular vehicle. That is, not only is that tire different than any other tire even if the name is EXCATLY the same, even in the same model, a different tire size would mean it is NOT the same.
OE tires are spec'd for fuel economy as one of the, if not THEE, most important thing about the tire. The tire manufacturers have to sacrifice treadwear and/or traction (especially wet traction) to get those fuel economy numbers and the OEM knows this before the process even starts.
That means that replacing those OE tires is going to result in a fuel economy loss. And if you are replacing worn out OE tires, it's an even bigger hit!
PLUS, OE tires do NOT come with a treadwear warranty, even if one is displayed on tire dealer and tire manufacturer websites. That's because the OEM doesn't BUY the warranty when they purchase tires.
Some odd things: I once saw a tire manufacturer supply 5 different OE tires in the same size/make/model with the only outward difference being the marking required by the OEM (BMW = a star, Jaguar = J, Mercedes = MO, etc.) Each of those would have been different than the other 4. That meant that Tire Rack had 5 different listings with an indication as to which car they went on.
Some dealers/distributors will change out the tires that come from the assembly plant. This is particularly true for Toyotas. The tires those dealers/distributors apply are ALL AFTERMARKET tires and the Monroney sticker (the one on the side window with the fuel economy numbers) MAY be wrong (too high!) I am not sure how this works if the OE tires are replaced.
And lastly, once a tire is no longer supplied to an OEM, it is frequently redesigned to aftermarket specs and you can't get the OE tire anymore.
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Our Mini came with Conti SportContact 3 runflats which we tried for like four weeks.
Unbearable, period. Replaced with Michelin PSS (BMW star marked). MUCH smoother
as expected when ditching runflats.
My GTI came with Bridgestone T001. Rather ok, but neither comfortable nor sporty, so
I had them replaced with PSS on another set of wheels and got some tires for the colder
season on the factory wheels all by the same VW dealer who also took the factory tires.
I have to admit I rarely like factory tires.
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Our Mini came with Conti SportContact 3 runflats which we tried for like four weeks.
Unbearable, period. Replaced with Michelin PSS (BMW star marked). MUCH smoother
as expected when ditching runflats.
My GTI came with Bridgestone T001. Rather ok, but neither comfortable nor sporty, so
I had them replaced with PSS on another set of wheels and got some tires for the colder
season on the factory wheels all by the same VW dealer who also took the factory tires.
I have to admit I rarely like factory tires.
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