Replace one tire or all 4?

So what model are the "best Goodyear sedan tires they had on hand at local Goodyear shop"? What size are they? The only time I've seen tennis ball looking bulges is due to Impact damage from Potholes etc. What condition are the roads by you and have you asked the wife if she hit any large potholes or anything else? The chunks of tread could be from same kind of impacts or possibly a messed up alignment also. Big impacts will have that affect. What model was the Hankooks? Were they original tires? Date code?

1 week old Pirelli after a crater size hole between lanes on Long Island Expressway (I-495). Sam's Club Road Hazard warrantied it. And my alignment was off as well a bend in the rim. NY DOT at it's best.
P225/50R17 Goodyear Max Life Assurance (the best rated tire the store had in inventory for my car). Did not say they are the best tires on earth:ROFLMAO:. Oh, yes she has run over stuff for sure. LOL only it would be kind of hard for her to hide it when she blew out the sidewall. Walmart made good for a new tire on that one cause I always buy road hazzard. I have now had to stop using Walmart in my area because they are having much trouble finding people who want to show up and work. The ones they have now from what I have seen should not be allowed to touch a car. We have the factory premium rims with no damage showing. I checked and drove that car the day before. That bulge was not there one day and was there the next so? You got me on how it happened now with two of the same brand tires and never any other we have owned. :unsure:
Did you have to buy a new rim? If so that sucks....
 
Go to a junkyard and buy a tire already mounted with about the same amount of tread on it. Or go to one of those places that sell used tires and by the size you need with about the same amount of tread on it. After a couple miles, you'll forget you ever needed a tire. Just don't post on here what you did or these guys will "tire shame" you, for not buying a new set of 4 tires for almost what your car is worth .,,,,
That advice, on some AWD cars, will destroy the viscous coupling, or Haldex clutch, that connects front and rear drives, requiring several thousand dollars in repair. Several thousand. Ignoring warnings (not recommendations, warnings ) in the owners manual about tires is generally a bad idea.

It’s fine for a 2WD car.

New tires are a lot cheaper than AWD components. Don’t be a fool about tires, it can get really expensive really quickly.
 
That advice, on some AWD cars, will destroy the viscous coupling, or Haldex clutch, that connects front and rear drives, requiring several thousand dollars in repair. Several thousand. Ignoring warnings (not recommendations, warnings ) in the owners manual about tires is generally a bad idea.

It’s fine for a 2WD car.

New tires are a lot cheaper than AWD components. Don’t be a fool about tires, it can get really expensive really quickly.
Please list and name 5 people that you know personally, that had any of that happen to. If your afraid to just put a tire on a car and drive it, stop giving bogus advice for a guy that doesn't need to waste money on an old beater car. Unless you want to buy him a set of tires.,,
 
So what model are the "best Goodyear sedan tires they had on hand at local Goodyear shop"? What size are they? The only time I've seen tennis ball looking bulges is due to Impact damage from Potholes etc. What condition are the roads by you and have you asked the wife if she hit any large potholes or anything else? The chunks of tread could be from same kind of impacts or possibly a messed up alignment also. Big impacts will have that affect. What model was the Hankooks? Were they original tires? Date code?

1 week old Pirelli after a crater size hole between lanes on Long Island Expressway (I-495). Sam's Club Road Hazard warrantied it. And my alignment was off as well a bend in the rim. NY DOT at it's best.

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YEAH....... looks like you hit a moon crater. WOW and that looks like it was a nice rim before..... Thank goodness at least for your road hazzard. I always buy that too.
 
Please list and name 5 people that you know personally, that had any of that happen to. If your afraid to just put a tire on a car and drive it, stop giving bogus advice for a guy that doesn't need to waste money on an old beater car. Unless you want to buy him a set of tires.,,

Your advice is barely acceptable for a beater.

I was talking about AWD cars. Please re read my post.

Then go talk to a Porsche, Mercedes, Audi, or Volvo tech.

Learn why the warning exists.
 
P225/50R17 Goodyear Max Life Assurance (the best rated tire the store had in inventory for my car). Did not say they are the best tires on earth:ROFLMAO:. Oh, yes she has run over stuff for sure. LOL only it would be kind of hard for her to hide it when she blew out the sidewall. Walmart made good for a new tire on that one cause I always buy road hazzard. I have now had to stop using Walmart in my area because they are having much trouble finding people who want to show up and work. The ones they have now from what I have seen should not be allowed to touch a car. We have the factory premium rims with no damage showing. I checked and drove that car the day before. That bulge was not there one day and was there the next so? You got me on how it happened now with two of the same brand tires and never any other we have owned. :unsure:
Did you have to buy a new rim? If so that sucks....
Hopefully no more issues in your future! If it does maybe consider getting some 16" rims/tires with like 215-60-16 for more sidewall. My '17 Accord came with 16" Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady. These are the only tires in almost 40 years driving that I had prorated due to defect (not mileage). Mine were separating on the sidewall cap. GY prorated and I got some Winter Command Ultra instead. GY customer service was excellent as I had no invoice/receipt, they were on car when I bought it used. They went by date code and tread depth.

The potholes by me are CRAZY on the expressway during winter. I see multiple people daily pulled over changing flats (or waiting for roadside to do it). A large percentage of them I can see all have the bigger rims, low profile tires. I've seen many bulged tires but talking to owners they all said impact damage across all brands.

No new rim, tire shop has one of the rim repair service places they deal with. I think it was like $100. Wheel was nice and straight on Hunter balancer afterward and new tire needed almost no weights.

If she likes other styles besides aftermarket, Hyundai rims fit the Accord and I think Infiniti also. I bought 3mm hub rings to fill the space but the rims/lugs are the acorn shape any and center on lugs. The black/silver in the 2nd picture is the stock 16" on the '17 Accord LX

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That’s cool SammyChev. My comment wasn’t pertaining to your response. It was(in a good way) reflected toward the OP.
Yeah_ I did not take anything in bad way.... You driving your FIrebird or keeping it safe during winter? I been so lucky I never lived where they had to salt roads. Of all my classic cars I only had one see rain touch the body!
 
Hopefully no more issues in your future! If it does maybe consider getting some 16" rims/tires with like 215-60-16 for more sidewall. My '17 Accord came with 16" Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady. These are the only tires in almost 40 years driving that I had prorated due to defect (not mileage). Mine were separating on the sidewall cap. GY prorated and I got some Winter Command Ultra instead. GY customer service was excellent as I had no invoice/receipt, they were on car when I bought it used. They went by date code and tread depth.

The potholes by me are CRAZY on the expressway during winter. I see multiple people daily pulled over changing flats (or waiting for roadside to do it). A large percentage of them I can see all have the bigger rims, low profile tires. I've seen many bulged tires but talking to owners they all said impact damage across all brands.

No new rim, tire shop has one of the rim repair service places they deal with. I think it was like $100. Wheel was nice and straight on Hunter balancer afterward and new tire needed almost no weights.

If she likes other styles besides aftermarket, Hyundai rims fit the Accord and I think Infiniti also. I bought 3mm hub rings to fill the space but the rims/lugs are the acorn shape any and center on lugs. The black/silver in the 2nd picture is the stock 16" on the '17 Accord LX

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Those rims are very similar to hers. Yeah, now a days you can get good and bad reviews on every product and company. It just slammed me that we had the same exact experience with those tires... My biggest problem down south here is NOBODY / NO YOUNG men want to do mechanic work these days so BEWARE here where you would bring a vehicle. I have one at the most sometimes two independent owner shops I can use for somethings I used to do. Now I am finding I prefer the dealerships for more things. I been a lot luckier with dealerships thru the years if (any hardly ever) had to go back for warranty work. They usually do things right the first time. We got some areas here with those concrete sections of roadways that break up and buckle and will really eat a car for lunch!!! I have a 2009 Accord that is the same color as your car. That color looks new when shined up really nice. (y)
 
Please list and name 5 people that you know personally, that had any of that happen to. If your afraid to just put a tire on a car and drive it, stop giving bogus advice for a guy that doesn't need to waste money on an old beater car. Unless you want to buy him a set of tires.,,
I can only list 2 that I know of personally. My Dad on a late 80's Chevy Astro RWD, 1 new tire installed on rear. Burnt up the clutches in the LSD. My father-in-law who never rotated his tires or listened. '04 Honda CRV AWD. Rear differential died since front tires were worn down to almost wear bars and backs had probably 8/32". That model CRV spins a driveshaft to rear that has like 2 pistons in the rear diff. Front spins faster, activates pumps. The constant different speed killed it. I forget price but it was at least 3-4 full sets of tires iirc.
 
Yeah_ I did not take anything in bad way.... You driving your FIrebird or keeping it safe during winter? I been so lucky I never lived where they had to salt roads. Of all my classic cars I only had one see rain touch the body!
The Firebird(FORMULA) has never seen a winter here in the NorthEast. I have always garaged/covered during the winter and she is in the garage even during the hot summer months to keep her away from the sun. I've owned it since new.

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And as we go back and forth It started a year ago and NAV45 never checked back in to say what he had for vehicle or what he ended up doing.

SammyChavelleTypeS3 - revived the thread and became the point man.

I know I always point out also that if my wife and kids are involved I'll definitely err on the side of caution. We all drive all the cars so they get good 3 season tires and good snows. Cheaper than the insurance/injury potential.

But for BigCahuna - your examples of an AWD and just a plain old RWD with LSD and odd sizes causing much bigger $$ repairs.
 
The Firebird(FORMULA) has never seen a winter here in the NorthEast. I have always garaged/covered during the winter and she is in the garage even during the hot summer months to keep her away from the sun. I've owned it since new.

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that is awesome. I hope u take advantage of that good cheap classic car insurance? I used to have all mine with JC Taylor from Pennsylvania and I tell you they were cheap and very worth it. I had a Unirolyal Tiger paw explode on me driving it home from a Super Chevy car show in 2009. I had driven that car at 70 - 80 - 90 mph that morning. On the way home that evening the right front blew up and before I could stop the front fender and front nose cone were shredded metal. JC Taylor asked me to send them photos and story of what occured. No other info needed / not even a police report or anything. The repair involved me finding a super rare entire new OEM right front fender and fender well moldings. The total repair came to $5900 and $0 out of my pocket. I was lucky to have bought the no deductible policy years before. The car took 6 months to have repaired and painted back to show quality. I was lucky not to be killed with those tires. I knew better and took stupid chances but never again with tires.
 
And as we go back and forth It started a year ago and NAV45 never checked back in to say what he had for vehicle or what he ended up doing.I

SammyChavelleTypeS3 - revived the thread and became the point man.
I keep doing that dumb sh*t. I don't know why / how? I click on new thread and forget to check dates and next thing you know I am talking to someone who is long gone ! Duh...... :ROFLMAO:
 
That advice, on some AWD cars, will destroy the viscous coupling, or Haldex clutch, that connects front and rear drives, requiring several thousand dollars in repair. Several thousand. Ignoring warnings (not recommendations, warnings ) in the owners manual about tires is generally a bad idea.

It’s fine for a 2WD car.

New tires are a lot cheaper than AWD components. Don’t be a fool about tires, it can get really expensive really quickly.
I guess if someone was worried about the used tire matching, they could find a straight empty road, mark the tires and drive a 100yrds and see what actual difference is before buying 4 new tires. I suspect you could fine tune rolling circumference a bit with tire pressures as well. My subaru tires are around 8/32 so I'd probably try a used tire if I had one unrepairable.
 
Yes. Tire shocks brakes healamps etc should be replaced as sets.
Do not forget to change the headlamp oil per manufacturer's instructions.!! There are some great funny videos out there of jokes involving people telling their mechanics stuff like "the oil in my headlights is low etc...." Or "I need a new 710 cap..."
 
The Firebird(FORMULA) has never seen a winter here in the NorthEast. I have always garaged/covered during the winter and she is in the garage even during the hot summer months to keep her away from the sun. I've owned it since new.

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I got the FORMULA in the bones ever since I sold the last Chevelle. My next classic may turn out to be a late 80s or early 90s Fromula when I get ready. I am certain what ever that it will be a Pontiac. They are all over the internet. One of my younger brothers owned a late 70s Formula that came from the factory with the Ram Air hood yet when he got it 2nd hand it seemed to have never been hooked up. He spent a week or so hunting down what he needed and got it connected. He was so excited about that he fired off a couple letters and photos to me. We can't forget that car all these years later. That is his "one that got away" to this day. He was a big fan of a show with incognito Firebird Formula I always thought was NOT a Formula. Apparently the car was a Firebird Formula "backed down" to look like a Pontiac Firebird Espirit. Wow. Suprise. I knew Jim Garner was a real competitive race car driver and knew his cars.... But check out this article:

Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, James Garner: Hollywood’s original holy trinity of car guys. Each of them owned and drove great cars, and equally proved themselves to be highly talented racing car drivers at professional levels. Cars, and often motorcycles, worked their way into the plots and scripts of the movies and television shows made famous by each of them; McQueen was unforgettable for his serious car guy exploits in Bullitt and Le Mans; Newman really drove Indy cars at speed while shooting Winning, and later voiced the Doc Hudson character in Pixar’s Cars. James Garner proved himself a capable Formula 1 pilot in Grand Prix, and worked lots of motorized mayhem into his long running (1974–early 1980) TV detective show, The Rockford Files.
Jim Rockford was a private investigator that, assuming his often marginal clientele paid him, made maybe $200 a day. He was tall, handsome, and self-deprecatingly charming, transparently much like Garner in his day-to-day life. Rockford drove what appeared to be a stock looking Pontiac Firebird Esprit, finished in glowing Solar Gold, replete with whitewall tires. Garner once explained that “Rockford would have probably rather had a Trans Am, but realistically couldn’t afford it.” And of course the handsome but decidedly more humble Esprit was a bit stealthier than the rumbling, grumbling big-block Trans Am with its flashy mag wheels and phoenix hood decal graphic. But would a 350-cubic-inch, two-barrel carbed, single-exhaust Esprit been able to burn miles of rubber or pull off the occasional chase scene stunt? Not so much.

The Firebird Esprit just wasn’t up to that job, but the Formula 400 sure was. So Garner’s Cherokee Productions and Pontiac’s PR team, a company called Vista Group (headed by former Hot Rod magazine tech editor and Motor Trend former editor-in-chief Eric Dahlquist) spec’d up Formula 400s for the show, with the tan vinyl interior and automatic transmission, and then “backspec’d” or “downdated” them to look like Esprits; in other words, with no hood scoops, rear spoilers or “Formula” badging. The effect was amazing. The car looked more subtle but still packed the 400-cu-in engine and more robust suspension.

Rockford got a “new car” each season from 1974 through 1978. Typically two to three cars were used for each season’s filming. Yet the ’78 models did extended duty from the 1978 season until the show wrapped in early 1980? Why no 1979 or ’80 Rockbirds? The story goes that James Garner didn’t like the “boxed headlight” redesign of 1979–80, electing to stick with the earlier look that had served so well from 1977–78.
The 1978 “Rockbird” VIN 2U87K8L147393, as seen in these photos, was special among all of them, serving as the “sound car” during filming. That means it was specially wired and mic’d in order to capture not only the sounds of the actors inside the car talking, but of equal importance, the sounds of the Firebird’s rumbling V-8, screaming tires, and possibly the sounds of sirens, cars crashing or other noisy things happening on set. Pay particular attention to the microphone plug-in junction box mounted in the floor console, just ahead of the shifter: it’s still clearly marked that one input was for “Garner” with another designated to capture the sounds from the (engine) “Bay. ” There were in fact several mics mounted all around the car, and if you are watching the show and do some careful freeze-framing, you’ll spot a mic showing up here and there. Usually it all went by so fast as to not have been noticeable on the clunky curved-glass TVs of the ‘70s. The Rockford Firebird is also unique in that it’s the only among these cars to appear in the series that had factory-installed AM/FM radio and power windows.

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1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files steering wheel
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1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files side profile
1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula "The Rockford Files" Barrett-Jackson
After production of the show, James Garner owned and drive the car until mid-1981, when it ultimately moved along to subsequent owners. It was never wrecked or substantially damaged post-Rockford and Garner, but it fell down on its heels a bit and needed a total restoration.
Then, it luckily found its way into the sympathetic ownership of Steve Reich; Reich is a long experienced “picture car” guy, in the business of supplying vehicles for film, TV and commercial use (he currently works for Jay Leno in the management of his car collection, and in the production of Jay Leno’s Garage). A big Rockford fan, Reich commissioned a complete and absolutely authentic restoration of the car, ably executed by noted Pontiac restorer Mike Flaherty, with the instructions to “make it look set ready for The Rockford Files in 1978. ” Fortunately the microphone junction box and some of the wiring and mountings were preserved along the way, as was a stack of documentation, letters, builds sheet and other provenance documentation underpinning the car’s significant Hollywood history. The effect is time-machine stunning, and were he still with us, you’d expect James Garner to amble out, hop in the car, fire it up, shift into reverse, and execute one of Rockford’s patented tire burning, smoking “Reverse J turns” that were a trademark of the show.
As we write this, the Rockford Firebird has a date with the Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale auction block, to be sold on to its next TV fan owner, at no reserve. Looking absolutely right and ready, this screen-used and star owned Rockbird is no phony, no cloney, or “tribute” but instead an absolute real-deal Rockbird, and some genuine Hollywood car history to be sure.
Editor’s Note: The auction has ended and the Rockford Firebird has sold for $115,000.
1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files interior passenger

1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula "The Rockford Files" Barrett-Jackson
1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files undercarriage

1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula "The Rockford Files" Barrett-Jackson
1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files rear seats

1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula "The Rockford Files" Barrett-Jackson
1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula The Rockford Files undercarriage

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WOW!!! ^^^That's an amazing looking Firebird and that ROCKFORD car looks even better than when these cars were brand new. I'm not just talking about the engine bay or the chassis that have been show car readied but, the interior looks(so good) and even better than the 2 brand new ones that I purchased in '79 & '80. Prior to buying these new cars, we also bought 2 others '74, '77, each when they were just 2 yrs old themselves. Even the body panel fitment of the ROCKFORD car look almost too good.

These cars(Camaro's & Firebird's) had so many factory flaws in the paint & interiors and careless build quality issues while they were just thrown together back in the day that...they need fixing/repairing right off of the shipping truck that were coming from the factories. They were absolutely atrocious.
 
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