Ok, am I crazy or should you use a screw jack ball joint remover?
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Removing wheel studs?
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Big C-clamp and a socket (removal and installation)
The hammer method just invites problems
Did the shop that mounted your tires using old oil break a stud as well ?
The hammer method just invites problems
Did the shop that mounted your tires using old oil break a stud as well ?
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Once had a tire rotation by a tire shop, when I collected my truck I noticed one Lug nut was odd.
They claimed that one stud had broke when they were un-doing the lug nuts (something I thought unlikely)
I bought a new matching lug nut from an automotive parts store but it would not thread on!
The tire shop had pressed in an imperial thread stud on my Toyota (metric thread) truck
The stud came out easy (too easy) with a hammer blow.
They claimed that one stud had broke when they were un-doing the lug nuts (something I thought unlikely)
I bought a new matching lug nut from an automotive parts store but it would not thread on!
The tire shop had pressed in an imperial thread stud on my Toyota (metric thread) truck
The stud came out easy (too easy) with a hammer blow.
^From my experience, that seems to be a not so uncommon problem with Toyota studs. My Brother's Camry and my Dad's Sienna both had a stud snap while loosening them. Maybe they were cross-threaded before I touched them, but I have NEVER broken a stud prior to their cars. I had 3 break when removing one of the Sienna's wheels lol. Today's studs are a pretty quick R/I. Not like the old threaded type.
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
^From my experience, that seems to be a not so uncommon problem with Toyota studs. My Brother's Camry and my Dad's Sienna both had a stud snap while loosening them. Maybe they were cross-threaded before I touched them, but I have NEVER broken a stud prior to their cars. I had 3 break when removing one of the Sienna's wheels lol. Today's studs are a pretty quick R/I. Not like the old threaded type.
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
^From my experience, that seems to be a not so uncommon problem with Toyota studs. My Brother's Camry and my Dad's Sienna both had a stud snap while loosening them. Maybe they were cross-threaded before I touched them, but I have NEVER broken a stud prior to their cars. I had 3 break when removing one of the Sienna's wheels lol. Today's studs are a pretty quick R/I. Not like the old threaded type.
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
^ Agreed
I had a Malibu that I sheared three off one rear wheel and two on the other side before I gave up..
Never before had I done that. And these studs sheared with less force than would normally be required to break the nut free.
Tire shop of course said it wasn't their fault - that maybe I was using the wrong angle, they used guns set to stop at a certain torque, whatever.. Even though they were the last ones to touch them.
Needless to say I don't go there anymore..
I had a Malibu that I sheared three off one rear wheel and two on the other side before I gave up..
Never before had I done that. And these studs sheared with less force than would normally be required to break the nut free.
Tire shop of course said it wasn't their fault - that maybe I was using the wrong angle, they used guns set to stop at a certain torque, whatever.. Even though they were the last ones to touch them.
Needless to say I don't go there anymore..
I lost three studs at the start of one winter snow tire changeover. I'm the only person to touch my car including tire mounting.
Studs were around 15 years old at the time.
I guess 12mm and 1/2" are pretty close, but that toyota story is wierd. Lug nut sizes... 3/4 and 19mm, 22mm and 7/8, are so close that one may think they have SAE studs when they might have metric.
Studs were around 15 years old at the time.
I guess 12mm and 1/2" are pretty close, but that toyota story is wierd. Lug nut sizes... 3/4 and 19mm, 22mm and 7/8, are so close that one may think they have SAE studs when they might have metric.
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
I know. I feel your pain. You have to be careful who you let work on your car.
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
I know. I feel your pain. You have to be careful who you let work on your car.
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
I know. I feel your pain. You have to be careful who you let work on your car.
+1... If you don't do it yourself, go to an old school joint lol. I have come to realize that the guys in which have been in the business for lots-o-years and work at private establishments, tend not to d*ck around with your car. This is most likely because all the extra funds if they screw something up comes back to bite them, unlike a chain dealership which uses their petty cash. There isn't much I can't or won't do but I avoid the stealerships like the plague when I turn to someone else!
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: lugNutz
Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Those studs were probably stretched with an impact gun. Then metal fatigue takes over.
This I would not doubt. Being that they hire any punk off the street to balance and rotate tires at that dealership, it could possibly be the case for the van.
Yes, this.
It's very depressing today that you can pay good money for service and get your property damaged and because you won't know the damage was done until much later you end up paying far more.
I had a similar situation. Honda dealer had rotated tires on my Dad's Accord, one year later I was going to save him the time at the $tealership and rotate them for him. Well I go to use my own tire iron to remove the studs and A TOTAL OF EIGHT STUDS WERE CROSS THREADED in the front (all four on each side!!!!) Of course not only was the initial damamge done but when another indy shop was repairing the studs they destroyed the right side wheel bearing because they hammered on it!!!!!
I know. I feel your pain. You have to be careful who you let work on your car.
+1... If you don't do it yourself, go to an old school joint lol. I have come to realize that the guys in which have been in the business for lots-o-years and work at private establishments, tend not to d*ck around with your car. This is most likely because all the extra funds if they screw something up comes back to bite them, unlike a chain dealership which uses their petty cash. There isn't much I can't or won't do but I avoid the stealerships like the plague when I turn to someone else!
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