Because counterfeit parts never show up at the shop when the shop orders them?
They can't even keep counterfeit parts out of commercial airplanes!
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Because counterfeit parts never show up at the shop when the shop orders them?
Sometimes their insurance won't cover warranties and such for reasons like this. Or it's just an easier blanket policy. It would seem reasonable for them to cover labor but not warranty parts. But it's also potential liability if the part caused some other issue, you sued, and their insurance didn't cover it.I have a vehicle that doesn't have a dealership in the area so I often order OEM parts to bring to a shop so I'm not dealing with their O'Reilly / Autozone crap. I called and asked if they'd swap my transmission fluid and filters (with brand new gasket). They said they'd only do the service with their provided parts (which would be universal fluid and aftermarket filters) because they don't make any money off customer parts. I thought my request was reasonable (and a simple job with all the parts in my back seat). I suppose a lot of people bring shady parts off Amazon but I felt weird being denied this service. Why lose a customer over this? Is this a common experience these days?
My shop that i do use is constantly being sent the wrong parts by the local parts stores. I bring my own parts because I don't want the white box GARBAGE they'd order. I did just use advance autos "updated' stab links and they were twice the weight and quality as what came off of my daughters Buick. I was in absolute shock how well they were built.Because counterfeit parts never show up at the shop when the shop orders them?
Oem is expensive enough without the local shop marking it up 200%Sometimes their insurance won't cover warranties and such for reasons like this. Or it's just an easier blanket policy. It would seem reasonable for them to cover labor but not warranty parts. But it's also potential liability if the part caused some other issue, you sued, and their insurance didn't cover it.
Next time, maybe tell them you want OEM and see if they'll order from a dealership and have it delivered instead of you bringing it in? Or just find another shop.
But yeah, I don't blame them but I also think it sounds silly they wouldn't do it. But customers are ridiculous so it wouldn't shock me they got burned doing it in the past either.
And when the cheap Chinese part fails or never works correctly, blame the guy who installed it.Its painfully obvious many on here have zero business acumen. Hot tip- take you Saturday and spend it underneath your vehicle- then when you find out you didn't do it right- spend your Sunday doing the same thing.
Not that I'm some sort great mechanic, but I can't say I've had to do a job twice very often? I do spend a good amount of time looking at youtube and the applicable forum before I start through, so I pretty much know what the potential problems are.Its painfully obvious many on here have zero business acumen. Hot tip- take you Satirday and spend it underneath your vehicle- then when you find out you didn't do it right- spend your Sunday doing the same thing.
The issue is the customer won't take the bad news well. Their car is basically in for surgery and the mechanic has to tell the customer, many times a day, that it didn't go well and they found other problems while they were in there, which will cost more. Many trust the mechanic and agree to pay, more people are pragmatic and know they can't get better results now if they tow a half broken car somewhere else. But mister "I bought this fuel pump on eBay" is going to spit and argue and threaten lawsuits, complaining on yelp, etc. not worth it to take on as a customer, and the mechanic knows this better than anyone.I don't blame a shop denying service with customer provided parts. They deserve to make a fair profit and have to stand behind their work with their parts. If something goes wrong using your parts, you are on the hook not them. If you don't like their policy , either find some other desparate shop or do it yourself.
Yes-parts markup is part of profitability-and always has been- for quite sometime in the vast majority of the auto repair business.Not that I'm some sort great mechanic, but I can't say I've had to do a job twice very often? I do spend a good amount of time looking at youtube and the applicable forum before I start through, so I pretty much know what the potential problems are.
I do try to stay away from mechanic shops with lots of expensive overhead, where they need to mark up parts significantly to be profitable? I'm all for them pocketing their shop discount, and they rarely charge more for parts than what I can buy them for, but if a shop needs $250-300+/hr in income(parts markup plus shop rate) per tech, to work on my cars, then I'm at the wrong place... I'm not driving a McLaren or a helicopter....
Well said! That’s where I’m at as well. I make a good living and a mechanic and the shop owner should make one as well. But don’t be greedy. Back in the old days, one would have to walk in to Napa to discover how much a part was. Now days it takes 5 seconds to discover that you were just charged $500 for an alternator from autozone that list for $269. There’s my issue. A shop pressing the “add to cart” button doesn’t justify the mark up. You can be profitable with the $200 an hour you charge for the work, without charging what equals out to be $2000 an hour ordering parts. My mechanics shop added about 20% on a cv shaft and I was fine with that. It equaled out to about $20 on a napa part. Make money, but you don’t need to make it all off me. I priced control arms directly from a Nissan dealer online and they were $280 a piece. I called a dealer for a price for them to do the whole job, parts, labor and alignment. The parts came in at almost $1300. That’s highway robbery. And I told them as much. My son just got a quote for a spill and fill on his sentra cvt out in San Diego. $449 for $80 worth of fluid and an hours work. Come on man!Not that I'm some sort great mechanic, but I can't say I've had to do a job twice very often? I do spend a good amount of time looking at youtube and the applicable forum before I start through, so I pretty much know what the potential problems are.
I do try to stay away from mechanic shops with lots of expensive overhead, where they need to mark up parts significantly to be profitable? I'm all for them pocketing their shop discount, and they rarely charge more for parts than what I can buy them for, but if a shop needs $250-300+/hr in income(parts markup plus shop rate) per tech, to work on my cars, then I'm at the wrong place... I'm not driving a McLaren or a helicopter....
That's actually competitive for transmission service. FYI. Call around for a transmission service at Independents and see if you can get it done for $ 250.00 ish. ( 80.00 +150.00 for labor) and report back here. C' mon man- do it! I get so tired of these posts about " I can do this in my driveway- for less" with zero consideration for business overhead.Well said! That’s where I’m at as well. I make a good living and a mechanic and the shop owner should make one as well. But don’t be greedy. Back in the old days, one would have to walk in to Napa to discover how much a part was. Now days it takes 5 seconds to discover that you were just charged $500 for an alternator from autozone that list for $269. There’s my issue. A shop pressing the “add to cart” button doesn’t justify the mark up. You can be profitable with the $200 an hour you charge for the work, without charging what equals out to be $2000 an hour ordering parts. My mechanics shop added about 20% on a cv shaft and I was fine with that. It equaled out to about $20 on a napa part. Make money, but you don’t need to make it all off me. I priced control arms directly from a Nissan dealer online and they were $280 a piece. I called a dealer for a price for them to do the whole job, parts, labor and alignment. The parts came in at almost $1300. That’s highway robbery. And I told them as much. My son just got a quote for a spill and fill on his sentra cvt out in San Diego. $449 for $80 worth of fluid and an hours work. Come on man!
If restaurants stopped selling steaks altogether and only sold grilled zucchini,I’ve heard of very, very few shops that would have at one time, allow a customer to bring in their own parts. And when the shop denies a customer that option, the shop mgr/owner would ask the customer…”would you bring in your own steak to a restaurant and ask them to cook it?”