Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: 3800Series
Originally Posted By: Or
Originally Posted By: 3800Series
No one company is arguably better then the other they are all made with the same components.
Dude, you have no clue.
With your reasoning, we could assume that since Bosch is a prevalent engine control electronics manufacturer, all cars with Bosch control systems are the same. Utter nonsense.
Because Akebono is OE for most all Japanese car's brakes. Tokio Radiator makes a lot of their pans and radiators and most bi-metallic systems and switches. The whole domestic industry there has coalesced around Toyota's pHOAT cooling chemistry. So I guess there's just no difference in Japanese cars?
It's how you put it all together, your skill and talent as engineers and manufacturers. And software matters.
There are clear differences in quality in computers, and it's nor really "arguable." It's demonstrable.
And Dell still sucks no matter how you who try to stack the deck...
Fine, show me two different laptops at the same exact price point. Tell me which one is more reliable and I will show you exactly where they dropped quality on that laptop to buy more "reliable" components elsewhere.
I think most "manufacturers" spec out different orders from Foxconn or some of the other small handful of factories. Some will spec more robust parts, like a motherboard with thicker substrate or a larger case for better heat dissipation while skimping on graphics horsepower; while others spec out low quality build materials and add in crammed-to-the-brim low quality features to impress consumers. These two hypothetical examples might we'll hit market at the same price point, and we as consumers make our choices.
I can't disagree with that there are many companies out there I've never heard of so I should have worded it better more of brand name companies. Over the last few years I've really been impressed with a lot of the manufacturers build quality. More often then not the PCB is far thicker then necessary. The VRM is often overkill on some desktops.
I've seen more then a few motherboards with what I would consider a generous amount of MOSFETs/chokes. Chipset wise have become standard. North Bridge stays fairly cool compared to years ago. South Bridge never had a serious problem in the past 15 years.
Sata 3 ports offer plenty of bandwidth (granted we have reached the limit for them) but unless your a business building a server SSD's work well enough even they you have the option for PCIE m.2's or just throw some drives in raid 0.
ATX 22 pin and 4/8 pin CPU offer more then enough power on the 12v rail (granted it also heavily depends on the power supply). Intel an both AMD have come a long way to place all the vitality components on the silicon die so even a less then excellent motherboard will not effect the processors performance.
Drives have come a long way and are far more reliable and tend to give early warning when they start to fail (SSD's do a great job at this and hard drives do decent but warning can be hit or miss).
The only real on going problem is cooling and battery life. Everyone wants something small, cooler, and they want better battery life. It's more of a pick 2 type of problem. Battery technology will improve tho and both CPU and GPU architecture has improved significantly over the past decade to not only become more energy efficient but also run cooler.
Most problems that happen today with laptops are people leaving them in their car while not at work or not properly venting them (setting them on a bed or their lap) choking off the air flow and just dropping them.
For desktops it's smokers or people with animals who do not properly clean and cause the systems to clog up since they are not properly maintained. I've seen a few people shove a desktop into a cabinet built into their computer desk. Opening the door only for a split second to turn it on and turn if off.
I imagine some engineer losing sleep at night due to nightmares caused from pressure to develop a passively cooled system.
(Sorry for the chain quote spam I always seem to break the quoting feature when I try to edit it myself).