Recommended value for money all season tires for 225/65/R17

I bought my first set of Michelins this past year. I've owned just about every middle of the road brand of tire, and what has become clear to me (especially if you are putting high miles) is that you pay upfront, or you pay in the end.

Michelin wear like Iron. Expensive, yes. But think of the money you spend with the mounting and balancing of tires that wear quicker....and the time you spend dealing with it.
 
BillyHW said:
Does OP need an all-season tire or an all-weather tire? What kind of climate do you live in?
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Apologies for the late response. I already have winter tires right from first season since I got car 7 yrs ago . It has clocked 87k kms until now. Tires that came with car have 2017 marking on it. I also see minor cracks to develop on tread and sides. I am in Toronto . I would prefer to have 2 different sets, 1 for winter and 1 for spring/summer/fall.
 
Risingphoenix339 said:
Apologies for the late response. I already have winter tires right from first season since I got car 7 yrs ago . It has clocked 87k kms until now. Tires that came with car have 2017 marking on it. I also see minor cracks to develop on tread and sides. I am in Toronto . I would prefer to have 2 different sets, 1 for winter and 1 for spring/summer/fall.
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If you run two sets of tires I would get the Michelin Defender2 for spring/summer/fall and the Michelin X-Ice Snow for winter.

If you wanted to run just one set of tires I would get the Michelin CrossClimate2. I think for Toronto this would be fine, since southern Ontario salts the roads so much. (And then you could spend the savings on Krown rust protection.) But if you already have a second set of winter rims and don't mind the hassle of swapping I guess you could keep doing what you are doing with two sets.

Buy them at Costco when they have the Michelin sale on (should be this October).
 
krzyss said:
Since OP uses winter tires probably no need for "all weather" ones.
Unless OP wants to avoid switching the wheels (I presume wheels not tires) I would stick with dedicated sets. But dedicated sets allow different tradeoffs.

Krzyś
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OP mentioned their winter tires are 7 y.o. but looks like still do the job in winter.
If I were in his shoes, I'd get quality All Weather tires to use outside winter next season or two and wear out and retire winter tires, then to switch to using the AWs year around.
 
dubber09 said:
OP mentioned their winter tires are 7 y.o. but looks like still do the job in winter.
If I were in his shoes, I'd get quality All Weather tires to use outside winter next season or two and wear out and retire winter tires, then to switch to using the AWs year around.
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I don’t mind doing it . Here’s my breakup. I switch to all season tires during April when it’s above 7 degrees and to winter during oct/nov when the temp drops below 7 degrees. Until now I have clocked 87.5k which is a little more than 12k per year , max it’ll go to 14k a year. So roughly 6k-7k on each set of tires. Do these all weather last this long? My driving style and conditions would be the same for the years to come.
 
BillyHW said:
If you run two sets of tires I would get the Michelin Defender2 for spring/summer/fall and the Michelin X-Ice Snow for winter.

If you wanted to run just one set of tires I would get the Michelin CrossClimate2. I think for Toronto this would be fine, since southern Ontario salts the roads so much. (And then you could spend the savings on Krown rust protection.) But if you already have a second set of winter rims and don't mind the hassle of swapping I guess you could keep doing what you are doing with two sets.

Buy them at Costco when they have the Michelin sale on (should be this October).
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Will the new tires work with existing tpms?
 
Risingphoenix339 said:
Will the new tires work with existing tpms?
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Yes.

However, if you get a second set of rims (you should really have a second set of winter rims if you are swapping), then you may want to get a second set of TPMS sensors as well. Costco has generic ones for $60 each. Dealer probably wants $100+ each for factory ones. Make sure they self-program themselves when you swap, or don't bother with them. This will depend on your car manufacturer. In my Chrysler they self-program automatically. I don't know about your Nissan. If they don't self program you need a scan tool to do it at each swap which is $$$ + hassle, or you can pay the dealer to do it $$$ + hassle. It will all cost too much money.
 
If TPMS sensors don't self program then one can have original sensors cloned so you have another set of sensors that look exactly same to the car when you swap wheels.
I'd just go with one set of wheels and AW tires in the future, ideally; good AW tires should last real life 60-70k km or more. Check Costco for tires as well; they will replace all 4 tires on AWD car if damaged tire is warn past certain % to prevent potential AWD damage.
 
stormgol said:
Continental Cross Contact LX25. i have them on my Mazda CX 5 signature 2024 in the exact same sizes. i prefer to have 17 wheels and tires instead of the OE 19 wheels and tires. among the best tires i have ever owned. the braking performance on very wet roads is phenomenal. they replace Yokohama CV G058 and they are much better.

225-65-17, A A 740, H speed rating.
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Put LX25's on my Maverick. Same size. Paid less than $625 installed mounted and balanced. Very good all around tire. Lots of tread depth. Excellent in wet and better than expected in snow. Quiet also.
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Hermann said:
Put LX25's on my Maverick. Same size. Paid less than $625 installed mounted and balanced. Very good all around tire. Lots of tread depth. Excellent in wet and better than expected in snow. Quiet also.
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Wow where did you get that deal? I am checking and a single tire itself is around 168$+tax
 
Toronto makes me think all-weather tires for the snowy months and all-seasin tires for the warmer period would be a good choice.
 
https://simpletire.com/paid?brand=n...BwTog48UWCVDfZneFAaAt3AEALw_wcB&delivery=Del5

Nokian Outpost APT on sale

Looks like you can sign up for their rewards club thingy and get 10% off too (didn't test though). Plus you can get 2% cashback and $30 for initial referral from Rakuten

Making this a great deal for great tires. 3 peak rated.

Once I wear out my current ones, these are my planned replacement for the Maverick and maybe the AWD Sienna too - wish they had this offer when I ordered new tires recently!
 
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I am leaning towards Pirelli scorpion as plus 3 Link. Any thoughts? I need something that is value for money and I don’t like paying for brand name if it’s performance is at par with mid range tires.
 
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