Recommended oil for F87 BMW M2 (N55)

[Indyxc]

my pleasure..
you claim 2 different things.cars under 400 hp need to be manual..thats an opinion.i might agree on this one.car tests don't.

but my point was about todays automatics in general.and why more young enthusiasts prefer it. and i told you why.

old ones had huge lags between gear changes, kick down that only occasionally worked well, gas per mile was terrible.

new ones on the other hand ,are smooth as butter, have better acceleration than manual transmissions, deliver power seamlessly, using the best computers, automatics change gears faster than a human can.

need more?

I understand your point, I was being sarcastic. I stated it was my opinion (IMHO). I own a car with over 500 HP that has a DCT (PDK) transmission, because in that vehicle the PDK is argueable more engaging/ purposeful for various reasons (More gears, lower gearing, too fast).

However, in a car with an N55 (generally under 400 hp stock), for people that chose it as an enthusiast car, I am suprised by how few chose it in manual. Slower street cars are simply for fun in my opinion in manual.

The is similiar to people that believe a Tesla is a better car, because it's faster that X car. You can cook a steak faster in your microwave than on the grill as well. Few chiefs microwave their steaks.

 

[Titan]

Few chiefs microwave their steaks.

Is that because they don't have electricity in their Teepees?

 

[Indyxc]

Is that because they don't have electricity in their Teepees?

Touche

 

[Nathan]

FWIW I use Redline DCTF and it works great.
Anything Bimmerworld uses is worthy in my BMW.

 

[edyvw]

OK, finally arrived.
I decided to change radiator since car has 150k and radiator is $168. High altitude is not forgiving to compromised cooling system parts. Not big job, but HPL MTFlife 75W was delayed in shipping, I guess bcs. of that storm in MidWest, so finally filled today:

I let Motul MultiATF drain while I picked up kids from school. Maybe an 1hrs of draining.

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Warmed up HPL in living room in the meantime to pump in easier.
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So, initial impressions? There was no difference in shifting compared to Motul, which is good, as MultiATF was smooth as butter.
Will see shifting when I heat up gearbox a lot, or super cold starts at ski place.

OK, fallow up on this:
Cold shifting is better than Redline D4, probably same as Motul MultiATF.
However, while shifting is very smooth, when vehicle is hot and pushed, it doesn’t provide enough resistance to be precise during fast shifts. Daily? I would probably still say this would be go to MTF. However, I would definitely go 75W75 or 75W80 if track time is planned. I will probably now order 6qt of 75W80 and mix it 1-1 since my gearbox takes exactly 2qt.

 

[Indyxc]

Interesting on the quarts and ATFs in manuals, when I changed my 135 manual fluid, only like 1.5 quarts went it, maybe less.

 

[edyvw]

Interesting on the quarts and ATFs in manuals, when I changed my 135 manual fluid, only like 1.5 quarts went it, maybe less.

It could be an AWD thing.

 

[edyvw]

OK, fallow up on this:
Cold shifting is better than Redline D4, probably same as Motul MultiATF.
However, while shifting is very smooth, when vehicle is hot and pushed, it doesn’t provide enough resistance to be precise during fast shifts. Daily? I would probably still say this would be go to MTF. However, I would definitely go 75W75 or 75W80 if track time is planned. I will probably now order 6qt of 75W80 and mix it 1-1 since my gearbox takes exactly 2qt.

OK, 2000 mile update on HPL 75W MTL:
It is a OK fluid. In really cold weather (we had a cold snap going down to -20, and I skied a lot at that time, having a vehicle parked outside for 6-8hrs), the fluid is not on par D4 and definitely not as smooth as Motul Multi ATF. Both of those oils are actually thicker than 75W (not sure about KV40). Also, I'm definitely not impressed when the fluid gets really hot. Going from 4th to 5th or 6th to 5th, shifting fast, I find myself going into 3rd. That never happened before. Might order 75W80 and mix it with 75W since I still have 4qt of fluid. Will see how it behaves in summer.
It is just OK fluid, at least in ZF BMW manuals.

 

[svenson]

so your top choice so far is still motul ATF?
i always put bmw's fluid and never had any problem, and as you all know my car's shifting is not that easy 1st-second gear.

 

[edyvw]

so your top choice so far is still motul ATF?
i always put bmw's fluid and never had any problem, and as you all know my car's shifting is not that easy 1st-second gear.

By far smoothest. I would try their Gear Power.

 

[svenson]

Gear Power.

https://www.motul.com/el-GR/products/34782?product=MOTUL+GEAR+POWER+FE+75W

this one? it will be your first FE product

 

[edyvw]

https://www.motul.com/el-GR/products/34782?product=MOTUL+GEAR+POWER+FE+75W

this one? it will be your first FE product

Nah. I would go 75W80 or mix 50/50 75W80 and 75W.
Depends on your winters.

 

[svenson]

https://www.motul.com/en-LT/products/34781?product=MOTUL+GEAR+POWER+75W-80