RAM1500 is coming without Start/Stop system

It barely increased fuel economy. It's more for fast restarts and giving a little power boost of 60hp or whatever nonsense it was but that little 500 or 600 whr battery under the seat likes to fail and costs over 2k to replace.

Some member on here had one fail two years ago I think but if I remember he got lucky and got it warrantied but the would be cost to replace the turd was over two grand.
 
I’m guessing there are discussions at the auto makers with people for and against it. My 2024 VW Jetta GLI didn’t come with stop start only because it’s a stick but the automatic comes with it. I think some stick cars in Europe come with it.
 
I’m guessing there are discussions at the auto makers with people for and against it. My 2024 VW Jetta GLI didn’t come with stop start only because it’s a stick but the automatic comes with it. I think some stick cars in Europe come with it.
It really makes the most sense with a manual transmission; it only shuts off the engine in neutral with the clutch pedal released, and it restarts as soon as you press the clutch pedal to put it into gear. My manual car is too old for it, but I really don't think it would bother me like it does with an auto. The only way start-stop isn't aggravating in an automatic car is if it has at least a mild hybrid system.
 
Engineering lead time. It is a reality.
It is not only that. Some are also waiting to see how long this policy will last. There is possibility that next administration will reverse policy. There is nothing worse for development when policy makers start playing ping-pong with regulations.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some keep everything in necessary for S/S and just eliminate it from software.
 
I still want to be able to move a truck (have it in gear) with the door open.
Same. FCA/Stellantis had to get aggressive on that after some actor didn't put his WK2 in park and got ran over.

In my JLU, if I have the door open and start moving, it will slam HARD into park. I couldn't figure it out the first time it happened. But if I take the doors off, no problems! LOL
 
I’m guessing there are discussions at the auto makers with people for and against it. My 2024 VW Jetta GLI didn’t come with stop start only because it’s a stick but the automatic comes with it. I think some stick cars in Europe come with it.

My rental VW Golf in Ireland came with Start/Stop, and it was a 6-speed. It took a few steps on the touchscreen to turn it off every time we started the car. It wasn't that bad, but I would rather not have to do that every time I started the car.

I've never liked Start/Stop, and I never will. It's just nonsense.
 
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