Ram Jeep "Tornado" Twin Turbo Straight Six Announced
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Very few buyers consider "engine sound" to be a consideration factor in their purchase. It is probably limited to enthusiasts or those who plan to install an aftermarket exhaust system.
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Guilty as charged, LOL! That's part of the fun of driving my wife's truck, the Borla system that's on it.
Lots of reality here. They, (turbo V-6's), really do sound like crap. Always have, and always will. If you want to carry this out exponentially, look at Formula 1. I don't know ANYONE who prefers the sound of those cars since they went to turbo V-6's. Every one of them sounds like crap. Especially compared to the V-10's and V-12's that preceded them.
You basically have 2 types. Those who love turbos, and those who pretty much wouldn't own one. They'll never mix anymore than oil and water. I've always liked the sound, power, torque, and simplicity that a normally aspirated V-8 makes. Less parts = less complexity, headaches, and expense. You want more, simply buy bigger cylinders.
It obviously works, or else the turbo guys wouldn't be constantly comparing their buzz bombs to them.
I've never been much of a fan of taking a small engine and try to make it work harder to equal a large one. Never made sense to me. A bit like hiring a jockey for a longshoreman position.
I mean seriously, who the hell wants a high priced truck that sounds like this?
V6 maybe, but an I6 turbo can sound glorious.
"a 50% fiber weight fraction (FWF) injection moldable short-glass fiber/polyamide 6 (PA6) composite" no they're not. they're cheap plastic trucks and nothing you can say changes that. Chrysler/fiat/stellatis whatever they're calling themselves now, have always built shiny turds.
Its a great NA V8 engine. Trans also seems really good.
There seems to be some deep rooted lifter problem that hits a small % of these and leaves others alone.
Its only down on power compared to the two turbo 3.5 mills.
Andrei said it - his foot was all the way to floor on the hemi truck and the toyota (and ford) always had more to go.
This is not an insult at all to the V8, but merely a reflection of engine design and tradeoffs.
Aniline 6 should present a different but potent mill 500/400 puts it right in there existing turbo mills - and this should be easier to work on.
Maybe if the engine wasn't cast from iron, FCA wouldn't have to run to plastic control arms looking for mass reduction.
Cast iron engine block in a 2021 LD vehicle. So modern. Tell me, have they added a MAF sensor or is the Hemi still a speed density system?
All this "reliable" 1990s technology and Hemis still end up with lifter failures (like GM's engines).
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i like tiny screaming engines, the more stuffed it is in the engine bay the better, quad turbo 4 cylinders for the win.
We all know that a quad turbo 4 cylinder is more efficient and powerful
You asked.
I answered.
My opinion on the topic shouldn’t be a surprise on an enthusiast site.
Seems an odd move in the market right now. The I6 is harder to package without other chassis updates due to the length. the I6 was less popular due to the challenges in safety design as well. And while oems are trying to move towards higher FE, it seems an odd move. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of the I6 in general - miss my 4.0, but it seems ill-timed.
Fair enough. I was trying to approach the topic from the lens of a mass-market consumer, which is what this vehicle should be aimed towards.
They’re hollow stamped steel with plastic. Im not saying it was a good idea (it absolutely isn’t, I’ll keep my metal ones) but they’re not straight plastic.
https://www.mevotech.com/xfactors-b...19-ram-1500-5th-gen-front-upper-control-arms/
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these have been around as sway bar links for 25 years
I didn’t know that… I did a quick Google search and “composite” suspension components like the Ram’s new control arms aren’t a new thing at all. Corvettes used composite covered leaf springs on the C4 and Audi did it with coil springs!
They did. In a Ferrari.
I agree. But how many are out there? The U.S. and Japanese automakers have gone nuts with ill sounding turbo V-6's. They can make them profitably, and shove them into most anything.
That Norma M20 I posted sounds wonderful. But straight six's are going to be limited, simply because they aren't a good fit in many models. And they keep pushing V-6 turbos.
This new "Tornado" straight six might be the exception to that rule. It remains to be seen. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the now infamous Fiat "Eco Diesel" disaster. It had, and continues to have, nothing but recalls and problems. From slipping, pressed on camshaft gears, to clogged intake manifolds in as little as 60,000 miles.
That engine was pretty much a total disaster. Especially for a, "modern Diesel". Let's hope this "Tornado" accomplishes better reliability, and doesn't come with a rubber band, that keeps pulling it back to the dealer...... If and when it comes out.
The manufacturers throwing in the towel on ICE development should take note.
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